the babby, we moved to rudyard grove in 1969, 8b above the Butlers, when we were there her 2 sons were still living with them, Tony and Phillip. Mr. Bennett and his son was it dougie (the window cleaner) were still there, Eddie cant remember her second name, lived at no 3, lady named lil and her husband lived at no 7b, a mother and daughter lived at no 4 or 4b the rest of us were new comers. but it was like you said it was only a small grove and everyone got on. 3 of my children went to ridpool road and they had there school photos took sitting on a wall by the rose garden. when i was a kid we used to go to ridpool during the summer holidays they had a play scheme going, when i think back to those school holidays the sky was always blue and it seems as if it never rained, happy memories. I always thought Jaquline Atkinson was big rons sister, perhaps its because she came from that side of the village. I used to live on the bank in Lea Hall road, by the library, When i was about 16 i knew a girl in eatsbrooke road, i think her name was Sandra Slatford, she committed suicide it was a shame she was only the same age as me. also i used to go around with jackie Mcgrady, she had 2 sisters, pat and can,t think of the younger ones name, also mary mellabar and pat collins.