Residence/Shop No.9 & 10 Summer Lane - 1818 to 1840

[P.P.Power]

Hello everyone.

Newbie here.
My name is Geoff and I joined this forum yesterday hopefully to help broaden my limited knowledge of Birmingham, and its environs, from the early 1800’s.

My GGGGrandfather Benjamin Jeffery was born circa 1788/1789. (Exact location currently unknown).
He married Mary Hipkiss in 1818, in the Parish of St. Philip, Birmingham.

From his marriage onwards Benjamin (a Miller, pre marriage trade), and his spouse Mary, resided in Summer Lane, Birmingham.

From 1818 up to 1825 Benjamins' occupation was stated as a Grocer, (numerous Baptism Records - all residing Summer Lane).

In 1830 Benjamin was listed in a Warwickshire Trade Directory as a Shopkeeper (No.9 Summer Lane).
In 1835 Benjamin was listed in a Birmingham Trade Directory as a Provision Dealer (Summer lane).

Now the interesting bit....
In 1838 an article titled "The Court For Relief Of Insolvent Debtors" published in "The Birmingham Journal" shows that Benjamin, "late of No.s 9 & 10 Summer Lane, Grocer and Chandler's Shopkeeper" was a held as a prisoner in the Fleet Prison, in the city of London.

However, in 1839 Benjamin is once again listed as a "Shopkeeper (No.9 Summer Lane)".

Sadly Benjamin died in 1840, (aged 51 yrs.), at No.9 Summer Lane. His occupation stated as Provision Dealer.

I am hoping that any Forum member(s) can shed any further light on "No.9/10 Summer Lane", its probable location along Summer Lane, and also if any images/maps could possibly exist of the building(s) at this address, or in close proximity.

Hope this isn't asking to much for my first post. Apologies if it is, and in any case many thanks for taking the time to read my post.

 

[MWS]

Not easy to place numbers from that early but I see Mary is still on Summer Lane in 1841, which I assume would be no. 9 (no number given). This appears to be at the Snow Hill End. The earliest map of any detail is 1890 and numbers are only listed on the 1950 map.

Below is the 1890 map with the arrow pointing at building that corresponds to one on the 1950 map that is labelled as no. 12 (buildings before this have changed), Post Office may correspond to a building labelled no. 4 in 1950 (numbers are sequential)...

 

[P.P.Power]

Hello MWS and thankyou for replying so promptly.
Yes Mary is still in Summer Lane in 1841 and also in 1851 (Widow / Occupation Green Grocer).
Her age is stated as 50 (b.1791) in 1841 Census, but age 42 (b.1809) in 1861 Census. She dies in 1856 at No. 25 Court, Hospital Street, age 65 yrs.
So that implies that 1791 would be her birth year as per 1841 record. (Never straight forward is it).
Thanks for the map and indication as to which end of Summer Lane. Much appreciated.

 

[MWS]

I see that one of her sons is with a Jonah Hipkiss (a corn dealer) in 1841. He appears to be the son of a Thomas and Priscilla baptised 1806 and they appear to have had a daughter Mary, baptised 1794 (listed as Hipkins).

 

[brummy-lad]

In 1964 Joe's Cafe was at No. 13 Summer Lane, unfortunately Nos 9 & 10 had gone by then.

 

[Astoness]

In 1964 Joe's Cafe was at No. 13 Summer Lane, unfortunately Nos 9 & 10 had gone by then.

i was just about to post that photo john...so near yet so far...those 3 shops were only demolished a few years ago i actually used the evening mail one but geoffs ancestors would certainly have known them when they lived just a tad further down

lyn

 

[brummy-lad]

i was just about to post that photo john...so near yet so far...those 3 shops were only demolished a few years ago i actually used the evening mail one but geoffs ancestors would certainly have known them when they lived just a tad further up

lyn

I wonder what state Nos. 9,10 & 11 were in looking at the distortion of the windows on No. 12

 

[brummy-lad]

Looks as though Nos. 9-11 were still there in 1938.

 

[brummy-lad]

Not sure now, on this view they look like advertising boards.