Plimmer Billy (William Henry)

[Pedrocut]

Now that is interesting. Have seen the name Maria mentioned somewhere, but was not sure it was the right Rueben.

 

[Astoness]

Is that the church by Villa park in Aston ?

yes i would say so

lyn

 

[0121Tricky]

yes i would say so

lyn

Thanks Lyn

 

[Pedrocut]

Here it is from December 1901 and Lichfield Mercury.
In post 81 Rueben was up before the Lichfield magistrates for assault on his wife, and here, if it is the right Rueben he is in the Army ?

 

[pjmburns]

Maria came from Lichfield area I think and, if I have it right died there as Maria
brimham.

 

[0121Tricky]

Maria came from Lichfield area I think and, if I have it right died there as Maria
brimham.

I think you could be right, i had herard of the Lichfield connection

 

[pjmburns]

I am not sure if Maria went to Yorkshire with him but she seems to have "married" there and had several more children. On the 1911 she is Maria Brimham (married 4 years) and has a daughter Eva Johnson (is this a name change?) plus a son Robert. It would seem there are possibly 3 other children.

Copied from someone's tree
Same parental details - father Joseph and a blacksmith. States she is a spiister. As ammaiage in Yorkshire no one would check details.

 

[pjmburns]

Possible children of Reuben and Maria:






Eva appears on 1911 census as Eva Johnson with Maria and her second husband.

Deaths




There is a suggestion that Maria died in 1903 but I can't find a death at the moment.

 

[MWS]

Can't see that this has been mentioned. In 1939 Reuben is living in Portsmouth and his death appears to be reg. in Winchester 1955 as Reuben Dodwell.

There appear to be military records for both a Reuben Plimmer and a John Plimmer. Not sure if the John is the John who was on the 1891 census and there is a 10 year difference in ages on the censuses and military records but that doesn't mean they're not the same person.

 

[0121Tricky]

Thank you all for your help on this, much appreciated

 

[MWS]

Thank you all for your help on this, much appreciated

I think I've found the birth registrations for George Frederick and John, they appear to be listed as Horton with mmn Plimmer. Years match and with those names I think too much to be just coincidence.

Which also proves that Reuben and John are not the same person.

 

[MWS]

She also had a daughter, Louisa Emma Horton reg. the same. She died young and has a burial record which lists her parents as Reuben Henry & Bella Horton.

 

[0121Tricky]

I think I've found the birth registrations for George Frederick and John, they appear to be listed as Horton with mmn Plimmer. Years match and with those names I think too much to be just coincidence.

Which also proves that Reuben and John are not the same person.

Good Morning

Are there any burial records for George & Rueben ?

 

[pjmburns]

I think Reuben is buried in Winchester where he died.

 

[0121Tricky]

I think Reuben is buried in Winchester where he died.

Thank you, any recor of George ?

 

[MWS]

Can't see anything for George. He doesn't appear to be listed on the Bham Council's bereavement page either which suggests he wasn't buried/cremated at one of the main Bham cemeteries.

 

[Astoness]

Can't see anything for George. He doesn't appear to be listed on the Bham Council's bereavement page either which suggests he wasn't buried/cremated at one of the main Bham cemeteries.

could this be his burial there is a headstone

George Henry Plimmer
Gender Male
Birth Date 18 Sep 1901
Death Date 6 Sep 1975
Cemetery Yardley Cemetery and Crematorium
Burial or Cremation Place Birmingham, Metropolitan Borough of Birmingham, West Midlands, England
Has Bio? N

 

[MWS]

No Lyn, he was a George Frederick Plimmer, death reg. Mar 1952 Bham.

 

[0121Tricky]

could this be his burial there is a headstone

George Henry Plimmer
Gender Male
Birth Date 18 Sep 1901
Death Date 6 Sep 1975
Cemetery Yardley Cemetery and Crematorium
Burial or Cremation Place Birmingham, Metropolitan Borough of Birmingham, West Midlands, England
Has Bio? N

No Lyn George was born in 1874 & died in 1952

 

[Astoness]

thanks tricky...same as MWS i cant find his burial/cremation on the list of birmingham council run cems/crems

lyn

 

[pjmburns]

could this be his burial there is a headstone

George Henry Plimmer
Gender Male
Birth Date 18 Sep 1901
Death Date 6 Sep 1975
Cemetery Yardley Cemetery and Crematorium
Burial or Cremation Place Birmingham, Metropolitan Borough of Birmingham, West Midlands, England
Has Bio? N

I think that is the son of Reuben and Maria. See post#98 for his birth.

 

[pjmburns]

Interestingly he is on an Ancestry tree which also records "death of brother John b 1877 and d 1951 in Dudley".

 

[MWS]

Interestingly he is on an Ancestry tree which also records "death of brother John b 1877 and d 1951 in Dudley".

That's probably wrong, he's likely to have been the son of a Joseph & Sarah born Netherton.

 

[pjmburns]

That's probably wrong, he's likely to have been the son of a Joseph & Sarah born Netherton.

?Thought it might be but was on way out to tai chi so didn't have time to check.

 

[0121Tricky]

At least 2 trees suggest this:
(I have not verified any of this and experience tells me that trees on Ancestry can have errors).
View attachment 195249

Morning
Is there any info on my Aunts above ?

 

[pjmburns]

Morning.
I haven't looked for them (your great aunts?). Are you on Ancestry or Find My Past? Free to register and search. I know some people register, search and then, just pay for a month to download anything they find.
Family Search is free but I don't find it as easy to search on.
I am busy today but will try to have a look.

 

[0121Tricky]

Morning.
I haven't looked for them (your great aunts?). Are you on Ancestry or Find My Past? Free to register and search. I know some people register, search and then, just pay for a month to download anything they find.
Family Search is free but I don't find it as easy to search on.
I am busy today but will try to have a look.

Yes my great aunts, i am not on anything, i am not the best on computers but not to worry if you are busy, you have helped me more than enough.

 

[pjmburns]

Can't see that this has been mentioned. In 1939 Reuben is living in Portsmouth and his death appears to be reg. in Winchester 1955 as Reuben Dodwell.

There appear to be military records for both a Reuben Plimmer and a John Plimmer. Not sure if the John is the John who was on the 1891 census and there is a 10 year difference in ages on the censuses and military records but that doesn't mean they're not the same person.

Just found this - don't think it was posted nefore

 

[pjmburns]

Also found his burial place (no pic online of site but suspect there wouldn't be a gravestone).

 

[Astoness]

It looks as if Reuben might have been in trouble with the law. So perhaps he changed name for a fresh start.
I can't be certain this is the right person but the age fits (Police record dated 1913 and he was supposedly born in 1867)
View attachment 195263

certainly looks that way jan...this from 1904