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Plastic Tram & Bus Tokens

Ray Griffiths

master brummie
hi folks

I've been looking through my hoardings and found this plastic tokens issued by BCT.

But I can't remember whether they were issued to workers or school children

Anybody enlighten me Ray
 
Gerr same here, nice hoard Ray, you are never alone with a good hoard:)
 
Travelled from Post office site,Garrison Lane to Fordrough Lane Post Office Engineering factory to the P/O school, twice a week on the tram circa 1943 and we were given those tram & bus tokens to pay our fare. Len.
 
I used to get them for travel on the no7 bus between George Dixon City Road and Five Ways schools in the 60s. Sometimes we wouild walk and save the tokens for our own use later, I had a few which are probably at Wythall Museum now.
 
Yes Alf, 5A to city (and on to Perry Common) & 7 from city along Portland Road. The routes were cross-city and showed final destination throughout - there were a few rare 'city only' journeys which showed what would appear to be the 'wrong' destination inbound.
 
hi folks

I've been looking through my hoardings and found this plastic tokens issued by BCT.

But I can't remember whether they were issued to workers or school children

Anybody enlighten me Ray


OK I wll raise your tokens with Five conductors ticket boxes from Harborne garage
 
Hi Ray, Thanks for the reminder, I to used then to go to school in the early 50s . Mike :smile2:
 
I Will see your Ultimate Ticket Machine and raise a BCT flash
(Incidentally, those were also used by Bradford Corporation transport!)

OK, I'll see your BCT flash and raise a Morris Commercial 'Dictator' (seen here many years ago with a younger, thinner and hairier me alongside at Trueman's Heath - our only home for old buses at the time. It was this barn collapsing in a gale that made us decide to find somewhere permanent of our own for them. What we found was the site near Wythall church which has now become the Transport Museum.)
 
All bets are off because Bammot's currency was counterfeit! His conductors ticket boxes were actually conductors " float change" tins. In the 1960's they were still in use when five shillings (5/-) worth of specified small change had to be in the tin at the end of every turn ready for the following day. Overnight the depot Ultimate (ticket machine) clerk would check every conductors ticket machine box to record the ticket numbers from the machine, the amount of spare new ticket rolls and the change in the change tin (which was kept in the box with the machine). It was a disciplinary offence if ticket stocks were below a specified level and if the required change was incorrect or missing from the change tin, both being the conductors responsibility. The five bob in the tin was from the conductor' first ever takings and added to their last takings should the conductor leave the job for what ever reason or be made up to driver. Drivers doing conducting would draw and sign for a change tin provided by the traffic office when booking on.
If anyone has a spare one of these change tins please contact me as it's a missing piece of equipment in my BCT collection and would complete my ticket box - no need to include the 5/-, I've got a few old coins that would fill it. Nice to see they didn't all end up in a skip, thanks for showing them.
 
(Incidentally, those were also used by Bradford Corporation transport!)

OK, I'll see your BCT flash and raise a Morris Commercial 'Dictator' (seen here many years ago with a younger, thinner and hairier me alongside at Trueman's Heath - our only home for old buses at the time. It was this barn collapsing in a gale that made us decide to find somewhere permanent of our own for them. What we found was the site near Wythall church which has now become the Transport Museum.)


This a view of Truemans Heath after the the roof had gone about 1979/1980 https://my.bus.photos.fotopic.net/p45435023.html with JOJ707, NEA248,
 
Hi Folks

Sorry I can't compete all I have got left is a Conductors whistle and a tool unblocking a ticket machine.

Can I say not a posh one like Lloyds, but I think he's cheating I don't think is a Birmingham ticket machine, I the Midland Red ones like a barrel organ.

Ray
 
Sorry to have to tell you Baron, but these are not tram tickets. They are Hants and Dorset bus tickets originally issued inside the Bournemouth Corporation Transport area. They are though, very similar to Birmingham tram tickets.
 
All bets are off because Bammot's currency was counterfeit! His conductors ticket boxes were actually conductors " float change" tins. In the 1960's they were still in use when five shillings (5/-) worth of specified small change had to be in the tin at the end of every turn ready for the following day. Overnight the depot Ultimate (ticket machine) clerk would check every conductors ticket machine box to record the ticket numbers from the machine, the amount of spare new ticket rolls and the change in the change tin (which was kept in the box with the machine). It was a disciplinary offence if ticket stocks were below a specified level and if the required change was incorrect or missing from the change tin, both being the conductors responsibility. The five bob in the tin was from the conductor' first ever takings and added to their last takings should the conductor leave the job for what ever reason or be made up to driver. Drivers doing conducting would draw and sign for a change tin provided by the traffic office when booking on.
If anyone has a spare one of these change tins please contact me as it's a missing piece of equipment in my BCT collection and would complete my ticket box - no need to include the 5/-, I've got a few old coins that would fill it. Nice to see they didn't all end up in a skip, thanks for showing them.

In the year in which former BCT Yardley Wood Wood garage celebrates it's 70th birthday the traffic office there is undergoing a complete refit or as they say nowadays "a makeover". Whilst ripping out the last remaining BCT drawers and cupboards, behind them this turned up which fits in nicely with my posting above. Sadly it has not been dated- the clerk must have mislaid it before he got to that bit. To those who know about these things it could be period dated from the ticket values - and is pre 1969 anyway. (Before it went missing this sheet was of white paper). Plans are afoot to celebrate the garage birthday with an open day next month which will be announced in the press. When I have further details I will post them on the Forum
 
Plans are afoot to celebrate the garage birthday with an open day next month which will be announced in the press. When I have further details I will post them on the Forum[/quote]

If you or someone in the know can let us know when this will happen I would like to be there with me boots blacked, the Acocks Green Garage 80 years celebration came and went there is a rumour that they still may hold it a few months late
 
I have been told that Saturday 29th November is the date, but this (and start time) is to be confirmed later.
 
I'll see your ticket boxes, and raise an Ultimate ticket machine!

Amazing how you took them things for granted, I've never seen one close up but I've been smacked in in the back of the head a few time by them.:headhit:
 
A management meeting re Yardley Wood Birthday is tomorrow. Hope to have info from that by tomorrow night. Will put on new Thread as soon as I know. Acocks Green are having a belated do but I don't have details of that..
 
A management meeting re Yardley Wood Birthday is tomorrow. Hope to have info from that by tomorrow night. Will put on new Thread as soon as I know. Acocks Green are having a belated do but I don't have details of that..


I allways get worried when managment have meetings
 
Me too but think positive, at least they have noticed the fact that the garage is 70 and in the right year! Mind you, I did point out to a garage highup a cast iron plate in the shape of a Staffordshire knot with 1938 in the middle of it that adorns a roof girder pillar just inside the garage doors, so like to think I might have set the ball rolling.
 
i well remember the bus token we used them to get to woodcock street swimming baths,when i attended charlie arthur street school how i hated swimming and the experience still remains and i still cant swim.but thanks for the memory.
 
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