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stuart67

stuart67

proper brummie kid
Im looking for a place to start and help with my family on my Dad's side. My Dad came to Birmingham in 1964 from Dublin.
I know all his brothers names. I never met my grandparents. I have scant details. Is there a start point?
Any advice would be appreciated...
 
Tracing Irish ancestors can be a little tricky, there are a far fewer records available than there are for England/Wales. The problem can be getting to the 1920s which is when you will be able to find records online. Personal knowledge is sometimes the only way.

When was your dad born and do you know your grandparents' names? Personal knowledge
 
Appreciate your response, my Dad was born 1945, always said he was a war baby.
I have his death certificate. I met his brothers and sister when I was small. They still lived in Dublin, Oliver Bond flats. That would have been mid 70s.
He always said his Dad worked the docks and had a badge??
Not great maths but perhaps Dad's dad might have been born around 1920?
 
as said given the lack of irish records this could be difficult but just in case anything may turn up i dont think you have given us the first names of your dad and his brothers ?

lyn
 
So it seems you have to bridge the gap between your dad's birth and his dad's.

Do you have access to your dad's marriage certificate or birth certificate which would be better.

Though even that might not be enough as O'Neill is such a common name.
 
stuart67 said:
Appreciate your response, my Dad was born 1945, always said he was a war baby.
I have his death certificate. I met his brothers and sister when I was small. They still lived in Dublin, Oliver Bond flats. That would have been mid 70s.
He always said his Dad worked the docks and had a badge??
Not great maths but perhaps Dad's dad might have been born around 1920?
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Stuart welcome , was it a badge or a button as it was also called, any docker carrying a button would be assure of work when ever casual labour was required on the docx in those days
 
Dionysius//88 said:
Stuart welcome , was it a badge or a button as it was also called, any docker carrying a button would be assure of work when ever casual labour was required on the docx in those days
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Thanks to all. My Dad's name was Terence.
He said his Dad was guaranteed work due to the badge.
I don't have his birth certificate sadly. Perhaps that's where I need to start, Im not even sure of his mom and dad's first names.
Mom and Dad got married in Dublin in 1962 then came to Birmingham soon after.
They lived in Samson Rd, then Grafton Rd. I was born in the house on Samson Rd.
I thought it would be difficult.
 
MWS said:
So it seems you have to bridge the gap between your dad's birth and his dad's.

Do you have access to your dad's marriage certificate or birth certificate which would be better.

Though even that might not be enough as O'Neill is such a common name.
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Thank you MWS. that gap and my grandparents lives is what interests me.
The turbulence of the times they endured.
 
Astoness said:
as said given the lack of irish records this could be difficult but just in case anything may turn up i dont think you have given us the first names of your dad and his brothers ?

lyn
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Hi Lyn. My dad's name was Terence, brother's were Tony, Reggie, Buddy and Tommy. Sister was May. May lived by The Greet in Tyseley.
 
hi stuart dont give up..something may turn up.. your dad was terence oneill/oneil (there are a couple of ways of spelling that) he was born in dublin in 1945 in..did he have a middle name ? and what date and month was he born?

lyn
 
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Terence David O'Neill born 1 Nov 1942. Obit. is in the Bham Mail 27 Feb 1995.

Irish births are online up to 1925 and marriages to 1950 only.

Asking family is probably the place to start, to see what they might know or what docs they might have.
 
Hi Stuart,
I have found a family tree on Ancestry for him. It shows his parents names but both showing born Birmingham. Feel free to contact me and I will give you what I can see.
stuart67 said:
Im looking for a place to start and help with my family on my Dad's side. My Dad came to Birmingham in 1964 from Dublin.
I know all his brothers names. I never met my grandparents. I have scant details. Is there a start point?
Any advice would be appreciated...
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Really appreciate your advice, I have been trying to form a plan today. The advice to reach out to family members is good. I have some relations on my mom's side who I can try to contact.
They might be able to give some start points.
In my mind I have a year of birth as 1909.
 
stuart67 said:
Really appreciate your advice, I have been trying to form a plan today. The advice to reach out to family members is good. I have some relations on my mom's side who I can try to contact.
They might be able to give some start points.
In my mind I have a year of birth as 1909.
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1911 is the birth year of your grandad.
 
A few things don't seem to match so I may have steered you on to the wrong path.

Is the obituary posted definitely your dad's?
 
Sorry about that then, I thought it might be after the info Faerny gave.

Your mother was Philomena Sheehan? There do appear to be a number of trees with them on Ancestry but none appear to list your dad's parents.
 
MWS said:
Sorry about that then, I thought it might be after the info Faerny gave.

Your mother was Philomena Sheehan? There do appear to be a number of trees with them on Ancestry but none appear to list your dad's parents.
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I think the trees found by Fearny relate to the Terence born in 1942 not the one we want.
 
There is a little more info I could give (eg moved to Wales) but it's stuff you'd already know.

Below is a link to a site from which you can order Irish certificates but you appear to provide a few more details than you wold for an English one.

www2.hse.ie

Order an Irish birth certificate

Need a birth certificate? Order an official Irish birth certificate online or in person for €20 from the HSE.
www2.hse.ie www2.hse.ie
 
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