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Old street pics..

oldMohawk said:
Shoothill have this pic tagged as 8, Birchall Street. It looks like a large courtyard with at least 8 houses per side some with window shutters closed in daytime.
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In September 1881 a chap from 8 Court, 13 House was one of 21 committed for trial for being caught at a prize fight. Details on the Interesting stories Thread...Post 23
 
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Astonian said:
hi lynn
thanks for the memories ; its a pity you neverwent afew yards back you woud have captured the old lollipop man
that crossed us over to the main sweet shop for all us kids that attendeded upper thomas street school
which incidently was only afew doors away ; that cafe was fairly new it was not around until later years if i remember correctly
our little tuck shop was always banged packed with us kids hope you do not mind me asking whom was your relies
as most of us natives at that school in hose days remember and knewmost kids and there familes
you never know we may know them great pics keep them coming astonian; alan
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Hi Lynn thankyou for the Clifton road pic, I used to live in Clifton road, between the printers and the shop we moved there from Defford road, we moved from there to Kingstanding. wish there were more pics of Clifton road, bye jose
 
hello jose another of our members also lived in defford road...i was able to find some old photos which i have posted on the defford road thread that may interest you...click on the link below

lyn

Defford road..

defford road..down as newtown..it was just off guthrie st nr burbery st park..looks like the chimney from the lucas factory in this first pic..hope these are the ones you want keith..
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Shoothill have these houses numbered 130 to 135 Great Brook Street but I'm not sure which one was 130.
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In 1932 someone photographed No 81 Great Brook Street showing some impressive houses quite different to those in the above photo although at least 30 years separated the dates of the photos. Nice car also.
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Taking Shoothill at their word, and the 1905 Kelly Directory as a guide, the North side numbers in Great Brook Street are 77 to 165. Numbers 131 to 156 are given between Windsor Street to Lawley Street. (131 being corner with Windsor St, but 130 is not mentioned).
 
In 1950 the house on the corner of gt brook st and windsor st were gone, but you can see from the numbering that the numbering on the photo went up going right to left, so 300 would have been on the corner
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So numbers were reducing towards the east and 81 may have been one of those wider houses on the right of the map in #5390. An entry gate is seen by the car in the pic in #5387 and a passage through to Ashted Row is shown on the map.

The pic below (date 1932) shows the occupants and visitor in the front door of No 81, perhaps, from records, they can be named.
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In 1930 the electoral roll shows occupants of no 81 as Herbert & Beatrice Godfrey, Albert & Gladys Martin and John & Nellie Young, while in 1935 it was Herbert & Beatrice Godfrey, Winifred Carter, Bernard Banks, and Emily May Cross
 
Many occupants but I suppose it was a large house. Interesting how some windows are apparently bricked-up. I know there was a window tax in earlier times but repealed in 1851.
 
oldMohawk said:
Many occupants but I suppose it was a large house. Interesting how some windows are apparently bricked-up. I know there was a window tax in earlier times but repealed in 1851.
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This is a classily designed house, architects would often add blank windows to bring about a sense of balance. Sometimes they even painted the sash stiles, heads and glazing bars in white on a black background.
 
The Army and Navy Pub was 128/129 Great Brook Street in 1940 . In 1911 the licence was an Albert Walters. Across the road at Number 130 was a Mr Wells. The house had gone by 1937.

Just behind the photographer was the Barracks and in 1933 the site was being used for new housing. Some of the new tenants were lost for words, but it seems that others were reluctant to move to them "new-fangled things."

"The change over from New Summer Street to Great Brook Street is one of their most interesting experiments."

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Pedrocut said:
The Army and Navy Pub was 128/129 Great Brook Street in 1940 . In 1911 the licence was an Albert Walters. Across the road at Number 130 was a Mr Wells. The house had gone by 1937.

Just behind the photographer was the Barracks and in 1933 the site was being used for new housing. Some of the new tenants were lost for words, but it seems that others were reluctant to move to them "new-fangled things."

"The change over from New Summer Street to Great Brook Street is one of their most interesting experiments."

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With reference to the newspaper article the following pic might be relevant. I had previously put it in another thread
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Morturn said:
This is a classily designed house, architects would often add blank windows to bring about a sense of balance. Sometimes they even painted the sash stiles, heads and glazing bars in white on a black background.
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Very fine looking Regency style places, maybe a staircase lay behind the blind windows. If these places still existed, probably they do not, they would have been renovated and be in a conservation area.
 
The larger houses on Great Brook Street were the ones down at the Vauxhall Road end where Revsby Walk shopping centre now stands and once the Ashted Hamlet public house. Last time I was in the area the Ashted Hamlet had been demolished and half the shops were empty. I've always said what a great crime it was to demolish those houses along with the houses on Ashted Row.

Attached photos, the last days of the last house in Great Brook Street and the Army & Navy pub thats had a mention.

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Skittlelady said:
Well My House is going to remain very dusty over the next few day's,These photo's are absolutely wonderful....I'm totally in awe with them...Can't stop going through all of them,they really are amazing..Thank you so much for these Postings.,,,
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I feel very much the same. I have been searching for particular photos from my family,s past. The Toons and the Wortons. I am feeling very nostalgic as the memories seep through my mind.
 
Great Western Railway Chain Horse helping another horse with a loaded flat trolley up the Pitsford Street slope from Hockley Goods Station in the 1930’s. At the top of the hill the ‘Chain Horse’ would be detached and returned to assist the next cart. In the background is the Hockley Inwards shed and Warehouse complete with 1930 extension to see this extension under construction from other side). A single horse was expected to pull about two tons on one of these trolleys. There was a box seat for the driver ten inches above the trolley floor level, but no mechanical brake. The canvas hood was secured to multiple arched hoops which could be repositioned to protect the load from inclement weather.
 

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Houses 16 - 23 Holland Street. A large building in the distance has what looks like an early type telegraph pole on the roof and a large chimney on the site. I often try to read the notices on walls and the second enlarged pic shows a notice about an Annual Meeting at Camden St Council School and Councillor Tonks, JP. is involved.
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The backs of these houses can be seen in the Courtyards and yards thread
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I am a little mystified by the numbering of this photo. Below is a map c1889. Numbering has not, as far as I can see been changed over period 1876 -1910 and was consecutive (1,2,3...). Yet directories say no 15 was on the north side , the last house numbered in Holland st next to charlottel st, and no 16 was the first numbered building on the south side next to George st. This does not seem to fit with the photo

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mikejee said:
I am a little mystified by the numbering of this photo. Below is a map c1889. Numbering has not, as far as I can see been changed over period 1876 -1910 and was consecutive (1,2,3...). Yet directories say no 15 was on the north side , the last house numbered in Holland st next to charlottel st, and no 16 was the first numbered building on the south side next to George st. This does not seem to fit with the photo

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I had problems matching the house numbers in the back yards with the house fronts seen in the street pic. The photographers almost always chalked the details somewhere visible in their pics but perhaps they have the street name correct but the house numbers not correct. From the maps it looks like the large building could be the New Hall Works on George Street.
 
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