Old street pics..

[Lady Penelope]

Not sure if this has been on before. We took it on a walk around the Hurst Street area and it looks like a pub / hotel. Can anyone put a name to it please?

 

[devonjim]

Corner of Lower Essex St and Bromsgrove St. but can't remember the name.

 

[mikejee]

Was the Rose & Crown.

 

[Lady Penelope]

Thank you both. I can now file it.

 

[Astoness]

hi pen...thread here about this building and who else used it..

lyn

https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/lower-essex-st.35646/

 

[Lady Penelope]

Thanks Lyn, I will have a look as soon as I've finished trying to get the slides copied.

 

[Lady Penelope]

Hi Everyone - we've spent some time getting most of the slides copied. I've just posted some on the Salford Bridge thread and I'm not sure if that's the right place. Do you think they should've been on this thread?
Anyway, I can re-post them if you think that would be better. I'd appreciate your thoughts.
Meanwhile - these were taken from the roof of Ansells Brewery in 1963. The first two I posted before when I was asking for advice so I hope you feel that there is an improvement.
Apparently the garage to Ansells Brewery was on the roof and there was only room on the ramp for one vehicle at a time. A horn had to be sounded - one parp for up and two for down (or vice versa). Strange place for a garage. These were taken by a friend's father as he worked at Ansells.
First one is looking towards the city and the second towards Salford Bridge - you can just make out the chimneys on the skyline.
Third is the site of the new TI building and fourth is the finished article.

 

[aston lad]

One word "Brilliant"

 

[Astoness]

pen if the others are of salford bridge then leave them on that thread just popping to take a look at them...no objection though if you want to post them on here as well...one word from me

STUNNING....just goes to show that these old photos are still out there...thank you

lyn x

 

[oldMohawk]

One word "Brilliant"

I second that !
Enjoyed looking at them ...

 

[Astoness]

cant beat the old uns can we phil...pen i have replied to your pm sent for advise...what a star you are

 

[Lady Penelope]

Almost the last of the slides now. City centre in 1967. Lots of parking metres.

 

[aston lad]

Almost the last of the slides now. City centre in 1967. Lots of parking metres.

I have to say "Thank you " for all the photographs you have posted over the past day or two....Brilliant, Stunning , Fantastic are just some of the words that came into my mind.....

 

[tim eborn]

They sure take us back to earlier days
Cheers Tim

 

[Bob Davis]

Almost the last of the slides now. City centre in 1967. Lots of parking metres.

What an unusual view of Victoria Square and New Street, quite a different angle of both to those normally seen, thanks for these views, obviously from the bus in the sixties but at least I can remember some of them

Bob

 

[Lady Penelope]

Thanks for all the nice comments. My friend Diane went out with her Dad on a Sunday morning to take them. I will pass your comments on.

 

[oldMohawk]

I like that view up Corporation Street, no lamp posts with the lights on cables across the street. Reminds me of my younger days.

 

[Pedrocut]

Not sure this is the right thread, but came across this picture of Dartmouth Street in 1957 from The Sphere.

 

[Astoness]

thanks pedro...would that building still be standing..

lyn

 

[Morturn]

Lyn, I think it is, it was called Waterlinks House when I last visited it. Its been done over and cladded now.

 

[devonjim]

I think this is the building so it seems to have survived.

 

[Richard woodward]

I worked at this Hawthorn road branch of Foster brothers 1965-66. Thanks for the photo. It brought back a lot of good memories.

 

[Vivienne14]

Welcome Richard. Did you mean to post your comment to the Foster Brothers thread? If so I'll move it across for you. Viv.

 

[Actongrumpy]

Sorry Alan, the Ivy Bush is on the other corner of Monument Road. The Tea Warehouse is now Ladbrooks. For a long time it was Lloyds Bank then I think a car hire company.
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The Ivy Bush is now much bigger than I remember it. It used to be just a little pub on the corner. Now it looks as if it has expanded into the next door.

Hi David
Do you have any knowledge of an island just off the Hagley Road, in the middle of the junction of two roads opposite the Ivy Bush?
My father claimed that his father was the first taxi driver in Birmingham and that his ‘pitch’ was opposite the Ivy Bush. I found an old map that shows an area marked out for a cab stand in that position - no doubt for a horsedrawn cab. The story my father told was that his father parked his motor cab there but one day the council asked him to move because they needed to build a traffic island. He refused, saying he was there first, and they agreed a compromise. He parked at one end of the area while the council built half an island at the other end with a gap through it wide enough for a taxi. When that was completed, he moved his taxi in to it and the council built the other half behind him, again with a gap for his taxi. He continued to use this space as a cab stand for some years after but I don't know when it was demolished. I have searched for photographs of this island without any luck and the taxi archive records went up in smoke some years ago. I'm hoping someone has information about it.

 

[DavidGrain]

Hi AstonGrumpy This is a view of the area today taken from Google. There still is an island between Vicarage Road, left, and (I think) Chad Road (right) but since they made both these roads one way there is little need for one side of the island although the occassional car does use it.

 

[Actongrumpy]

Hi AstonGrumpy This is a view of the area today taken from Google. There still is an island between Vicarage Road, left, and (I think) Chad Road (right) but since they made both these roads one way there is little need for one side of the island although the occassional car does use it.
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Hi Dave
It's in about the right place but that's a modern island I would imagine. What I'm after is a photo taken before they made the Hagley Road a dual carriage way, which is many years ago. The position is shown on this old map.

Dave2

 

[Astonian]

Hi Aston crumpy
I am very sorry to say and i have to agree with david that is not the island facing the ivvy bush
i can remember the old ivy bush itself and the pub included
because where the little side road was the place was called the ivy bush was a huge are of bushes and also
i have to beleive some one lived on that land as there was roman type tiles on the ground of this property
for what ever the reason or what type of property it was in its hey day
It also included an orchard of pear and apple trees by the dozens and we was only little nippers bored
and we got chased by a copper through there we all scattered the other kids was running
It was like a jungle i seen the copper so i scampered up to the top of the tree and he was standing below me
looking around every think went quiet and he went
on that little road near to the corner of hagley road was a buning clock for the bus
i cannot be sure of the bus number but it took you to yardley cementry yardley in those days
It was a little narrow road with a wall running along side the buses
you could have come out of that road to intercept the road coming up from harborne
with hagley road running across just like the map you see , but there was no traffic lights in those days
eventualy they put some up and stopped that side road and cancelled that bus services as well from there
it was across the road from the ivy bush
as you will see from today coming out of the city and turn left at that juction as you knew then
as been repopened and its an only one way which will take you down to the botanicle gardens
the open you put the island is diverting up to quinton which is further down the line on
the hagley road

 

[oldMohawk]

An aerial view of the Hagley Rd dated 1920 with two maps which are dated 1892-1905.
Aerial View

Area Map

Enlarged Map section showing island.

 

[Actongrumpy]

Thanks for that. It's getting tantalizing close.

 

[Astonian]

Hi old mowhawk
Here is another old golden oldie for you of Hagley road before the tram ways
And an early picture of the plough and Harrow before becoming the hotel
Yet again an other one of the famous Hagley road junctions