Dionysius//88
master brummie
How it's changed since I was a lad
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SteveBhx
master brummie
Our next image is something Birmingham councils Parks department has become world famous for. This is the 1992 Chelsea flower show display, and something that the council has a reputation for winning a gold medal for. This year Birmingham was City of Music and the display represented this.
SteveBhx
master brummie
Continuing our tour we had back toward the council house now crossing the ring road at the end of Broad Street. We have Baskerville House the Hall of Memory and the Hyatt Hotel in the background. You can see from this image how much of a curve the bridge has and although it is in black and white the flower displays in the beds to the sides
SteveBhx
master brummie
Having gone under the library and round the back of the council house we not are standing at the back of the gas hall in Edmund Street, and in front of us are the old tram tracks and a remaining bit of cobbled surface. The road ahead descends into the underground car park , the glass box is the security booth for the barrier and there are the railings and Statue - I dont know if they / him are significant.
SteveBhx
master brummie
Unfortunately my descriptions get a bit vague now, it is still the 28th June 1992, and next we have " a building in Margaret Street". This the corner of Edmund Street and Margaret Street , and is the rear of Louisa Ryland House or part of that block ( feel free to correct me and I can amend the entry) The are lots of detail to this building, iron work up high, columns pillars and tiles. There is also a plaque which is on the facing wall.
A Sparks
master brummie
Great building inside too - worth going to the annual end of year students show as you can have a look round.
SteveBhx
master brummie
We now come to the corner of Edmund Street and Newhall Street and for those who know it we have a wonderful red brick building with carving embossed and a grand entrance. 17 - 19 Newhall Street and 103 Edmund Street is its actual address and is a Listed Building. It is not hard to imagine what it would have looked like 100 years ago as the black and white image helps although I am sure the No entry sign is not contemporary.
SteveBhx
master brummie
Now moving to the opposite corner we have a totally different style - Historic England web site will give the full details - at that time it was the Scottish Mutual Assurance Society, but is now a bar with apartments above . Love the ironwork around each floor level which gives it a european look .
RobT
Acemeccanoman
Dionysius//88
master brummie
After the trams had stopped many many years ago , the amount of buses that terminated here was unbelievable B82, B83, and more, pity this is all that's left after all that hustle and bustle
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thank you steve..another set of smashing photos...think its nice that these old tram lines remain as a reminder of the days when the city was so full of life and atmosphere
lyn
Eric Gibson
master brummie
I just think of what the place would look like with today's fashions, all the ladies in mini skirts, tattoos and rings in their cheeks lips and noses.
Richard Dye
master brummie
We went to a formal wedding a few weeks ago, I wore a dark blue suit, white shirt and stiped tie, actually felt pretty good. There we many young and not so young that did not get the message. They looked like they were going to a disco joint, disappointing!
Such grace, elegance and an unquestionable hierarchy in that room. Nice to see women supervisors but I wonder how long it took for a female to sit in one of the manager's chairs ? Viv
Stokkie
master brummie
Yes, Birmingham School of Art is part of Birmingham City University (BCU). And was part of Birmingham Polytechnic previously.https://www.bcu.ac.uk/art
SteveBhx
master brummie
Carrying on where we left off at the junction of Edmund Street and Newhall Street, and have turned further round further. This is or was Louisa Ryland House former council offices which had a restaurant in the basement. Entrance was at the far end of the Newhall Street face. Plenty of pillars and porticos. Inn later years it became a glorified store for council furniture from various city office before people became relocated.
Dionysius//88
master brummie
I have a tale to tell about this establishment in my youth a certain Mr's Neale ran this off licence , she then moved into Granville St but in 66/67 Kelly's a cetain Mr's Susan Ethel Neale is listed as a fancy draper which after a certain amount of time this folded and I'm 100% certain went back to selling alcohol although not draught beer with Mr's Neale still there . I fetched a couple of jugs of beer from here as a nipper and not a drop passed my lips hones t
Dionysius//88
master brummie
Eric perhaps it would be better not to know what they'd be wearing , I know I dread to think
SteveBhx
master brummie
Remaining in the same area we return to Bell Edison building for the next couple of images, first a general view from the opposite direction to the previous picture and shows the brickwork, railing and also windows on the corner which continue below ground level to the basement 
SteveBhx
master brummie
Second picture shows how fine the entrance actually was , from the net curtains in the main windows and the finely carved date - 1896 with the leaves surrounding it and the ferns above that. Below that we have a fine arch, note the faces and the gates to the entrance are very nice with all the guilt work.
SteveBhx
master brummie
Finally on this roll we somehow jump to Warstone Lane and Frederick Street, I know this from the road signs as this location is not on my list!. I know what I can see but it is a "classic Bank building " and even if it didn't have Barclays on it we would probably guess the use of the property. Stone work on the Ground floor with Brickwork above and also not a grill or bar in sight!!
clarkstreet
Brummie babby
Hyde arms.corner of Hyde rd and Clark st.
Lady Penelope
master brummie
A very interesting photo - all those supervisors checking that the operators were doing their jobs properly. I was wondering what the men were doing and the ladies in the middle of the room seated at the desks. Telegrams? Message services? Perhaps we'll never know.
Richard Dye
master brummie
Lady P, for the most part it’s the hierarchy that Viv brought up! It shows three levels of work, the real workers, the supervisors and the managers. You notice the clear separation and shielding of the managers. It looks like all have access to equipment but the managers are not poised for work in reality!
SteveBhx
master brummie
We have two negative sheets with number 127, sheet 127A has an information list 127B doesn't - this is 127B - while most of the buildings are recognisable and a route can be found some of them I don't know the location but I am sure you will fill in the gaps.
First up we have Moor Street Station, looking rather sorry, gates are shut and there is a bit of graffiti on the windows. The WM logo is below the British Rail arrows, which may help date it. Note also the lack of traffic and the two modern telephone boxes on the left.
First up we have Moor Street Station, looking rather sorry, gates are shut and there is a bit of graffiti on the windows. The WM logo is below the British Rail arrows, which may help date it. Note also the lack of traffic and the two modern telephone boxes on the left.