• Welcome to this forum . We are a worldwide group with a common interest in Birmingham and its history. While here, please follow a few simple rules. We ask that you respect other members, thank those who have helped you and please keep your contributions on-topic with the thread.

    We do hope you enjoy your visit. BHF Admin Team

New unseen photos with no locations

Looking at the pic, it appears that 'our pub' is a corner pub, and if it is on Queens Rd the only corner at right angles like the road to the right of the pub is with Beales St as can be seen in the map in post#129 opposite where the Adventurer's Pub is marked.

Looking for buildings in the pic which might have survived until present time ...

The 1960s style housing on the left with the tiled pitched roof and dark vertical separating brickwork.

The large building in the distance which might be the university but the window shapes don't quite seem to match todays view.
 
Thanks for your thoughts and for posting the maps, Mike. Frustratingly, none of those seem to fit.

The ominous looming bulk of Aston University resonates with me because I studied there from 1982 to 85. The lecture timetable was agreeably sparse, so I had plenty of time to wander around town with the camera. I wish now that I had been more methodical in recording places that were vulnerable to change - in the way that you did a decade earlier, Mike.

The last resort - someone could show the photo to the residents of the local old folks' home. Might spark a lively session of reminiscences.
 
morning phil and aston lad...i was up until 2.30 last night trying to work this one out ive been going through hundreds of old photos trying to find that chimney stack for clues. i had always thought it was not a corner pub but because of the housing to right it does seem that it could have been on a corner...so now ive changed my mind and i am even more confused lol...

lyn
 
Hi Lyn - It is strange that members who lived in that area don't seem to remember it. I've been looking in that area because the pic on Mike's roll of film was among other pics from the area. I'm still puzzled with that 1960's style housing on the left and the only similar I can find today is shown in this streetview https://goo.gl/maps/xud7h
Notice the dark vertical brickwork stripe between the flats which can be seen in the old pic, and someone in those properties has got a leaking gutter .....
friendly_wink.png
 
hi phil i think those 60s houses to the left are maisonettes and i also think that where ever this pub was it was facing housing or certainly other buldings...note the bomb peck where houses would have stood then a road and then cobbled pavement..
 
devonjim said:
If at first you don't succeed. Pack it up!
Click to expand...
If it nearly done Phil's head in I suppose you might be right !
Phil said:
I'm afraid I can't help with this one as it nearly did my head in a couple of years back and I would like to see it named just as much as you would. Just wait one day someone will come on line and say that was my old local it was the ........ and we will all say "why couldn't we see that?"
Click to expand...
 
have just emailed the photo over to carl chinn at this point i think its worth asking..never know something may jump out at him..i am now wondering if it is the original adventurers pub..

lyn
 
Last edited:
cookie273uk said:
There was an awful lot of pubs round there ! must have been a right load of boozers to keep them all in business ?
Click to expand...

There were an awful lot of pubs in most towns and cities, many, as we all know, have closed due to fashions changing.

Pre 1950's and the advent of television for the masses, pubs were a good place for those with very large families - of which there were many - they were able to get from under each others feet so to speak. They were also warm in winter and very social places it seems - providing the place wasn't a frequent haunt of "loud mouths", aggressive or just plain unpleasant folk.
 
Don't forget the splendid 128-page book just recently published: 'Real Heritage Pubs of the Midlands', which includes descriptions and photos of historic interiors of pubs from Herefordshire to Lincolnshire, including 24 in Birmingham. The Minton-tiled lobby of the Bartons Arms features on the cover. A bargain at £5.99, available online or from Waterstone's in Brum, I believe.
 
Viewfinder said:
Don't forget the splendid 128-page book just recently published: 'Real Heritage Pubs of the Midlands', which includes descriptions and photos of historic interiors of pubs from Herefordshire to Lincolnshire, including 24 in Birmingham. The Minton-tiled lobby of the Bartons Arms features on the cover. A bargain at £5.99, available online or from Waterstone's in Brum, I believe.
Click to expand...

got it viewfinder...

lyn
 
Aston Lad. I honestly do not know myself as to the Church Road/Bright St pub. I never lived round there and am only going by maps and directories. I did not think that the pub looked as if it was on a corner, but now some seem to think it was, So i don't really know.
 
While we are still cogitating about the pub photo I will put up another one (or rather three). These appear on the same roll of film, are shot consecutively, and look from the buildings as if they are all in a small area. They come immediately after the one of Newburys in Portland st and before some of Bradford St, so I have no real idea as to area.They might not have been shot on the same day. Two, other than rather distinctive windows, have no particular features, byut the third does have a rather distinctive factory in the bacjground.

15AA.jpg



16AA.jpg


17AA.jpg
 
Hi All,

Mike - A complete shot in the dark but the factory could be Butlers in Grange Road, Small Heath. If I am right, and I doubt it, the houses would be in one of the roads off Grange Road.

Old Boy
 
Mikes pub picture looks like The "BAG OF NAILS" or was its real name The Carpenters Arms in Adelaide St . Highgate. Moss
 
Mossg
I don't know the pub, Phil probably will, but I have this picture which is labelled the Carpenters arms, adelaide st, and, if the label is right, it does not look very much like the unknown pub

Carpenters_Arms_Adelaide_St.jpg
 
Yes Mike that the bag of nails down by St Martins Flats, it's nothing like the pub you are looking for, if it were I would have known it at once. I often used it and it did one of the best dinner time trades of any pub in the area. It did fantastic lunches and the bar meals were great as well. If you wasn't in there by 12 o clock then you didn't get a seat either in the dining room upstairs or in the bar.
 
with ref to mikes other unknown pub pic 1 and as the new adventurers pub corner of queens road and grosvenor road has been mentioned i popped down there today took these photos of the pub which is now a car lot..in mikes photo we can clearly see a chimney stack to the right...if you turn out of grosvenor road and turn left onto the lichfield road just a little way up on the right is part of a chimney stack...it has obviously been cut down a lot as it only say bros ltd on it so the name of the company is missing so maybe we are in the right area as mike did take photos around lichfield road... this is my last effort to solve this one..must move on lol

lyn
 

Attachments

  • unknown pub.jpg
    unknown pub.jpg
    146.5 KB · Views: 115
  • ADVENTURERS QUEENS AND GROVENOR ROAD 003.JPG
    ADVENTURERS QUEENS AND GROVENOR ROAD 003.JPG
    433.1 KB · Views: 113
  • ADVENTURERS QUEENS AND GROVENOR ROAD 005.JPG
    ADVENTURERS QUEENS AND GROVENOR ROAD 005.JPG
    459.5 KB · Views: 99
  • ADVENTURERS QUEENS AND GROVENOR ROAD 004.JPG
    ADVENTURERS QUEENS AND GROVENOR ROAD 004.JPG
    428.7 KB · Views: 87
  • ADVENTURERS QUEENS AND GROVENOR ROAD 008.JPG
    ADVENTURERS QUEENS AND GROVENOR ROAD 008.JPG
    498.4 KB · Views: 89
Last edited:
mike post 193..great shot of houses to be demolished.. would be nice to locate them...hope someone will know that very distinctive building...i am afaid i dont have a clue..

lyn
 
I used to use the Carpenter Arms on a regular basis in the early 1970's, it was next door to where I was working at the time Bristol Street Motors (parts), I think it is still there....
 
Just an observation re. Mike's first photo post # 193.The windows of the cottages are very recessed, so I think the buildings are probably early Georgian. They have arched doorways/alleyways reminiscent of church arches. Wonder if they were connected to the church or maybe they were built as almshouses. And there's a wall running behind the cottages visible above the roofs. Viv.
 
Last edited:
Yes you are right Phil it is nothing like the bag for nails.Have you seen it on google street view? It doesn't look much like when I used it in the 1980s.
 
Re the second of Mikes photos post # 193, what type of factory needed all those (small) chimneys? It obviously isn't a heavy metal processing plant, but can't think what process it would be involved in with chimneys constructed at regular intervals. It has very large windows, so would it have been jewellery related? Could it have been electroplating (or does that need a big chimney?). Or maybe it was a food factory? Viv.
 
Last edited:
Re. the factory in the second photo post #193, the annex to the factory seems to have slatted window vents (at least I think so, or maybe the windows have been bricked up). If they are vents it suggests grain to me, so maybe it's activity was something to do with brewing. But that doesn't explain the arrangement of chimneys around the roof. Viv.
 
I think the small annex on the end of the building may be toilets as there appear to be soil vent pipes by each window. The many chimney-like objects might be for taking fumes away from work benches where soldering or brazing was being carried out. Certainly an unusual looking building.
 
The pub with no name. in the photograph there are some heavy construction being built which is part of the Aston Expressway which was being built'
if you check the A to Z you can see the expressway beyond Queens road the spire on the right would then be Aston Hall lane school the factory in the distant would be the GEC in Electric avenue
 
my post 199 with photos i took today shows the expressway running behind the new adventurers pub...carl chinn got back to me earlier and said he was stumped as to the location but has just contacted me again to say hes looked again and he thinks it could be the original adventures pub and that the building behind it just showing the roof and chimneys of a building could be the aston tavern pub...hes going to take a look at the lie of the land when he goes to the villa game on saturday...so we have got him at it now lol

lyn
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top