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Wendy
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I have no information on the photo it was taken off Facebook with permission.
postie
Gone but not forgotten. R.I.P.
EEE turned out nice again....
oldMohawk
gone but not forgotten
Seeing the name of this station pop up I noticed this photo on the BHF server which shows a 1950's view of the station entrance through which I went in 1954 to catch a midnight train for a 6 hour journey to a super 2 week holiday in Woolacombe.
I had a seat going but had to sit on my case in the corridor on a packed train coming back.
I had a seat going but had to sit on my case in the corridor on a packed train coming back.
DavidGrain
master brummie
Thanks Mike for the map. I was trying to remember where Shut Lane was. Someone has posted a photo on the forum recently. I see that it was between the railway lines to Snow Hill and Moor Street Station so now under platform 2 of the refurbished Moor Street station. I was never a trainspotter in the sense of writing down numbers but as a boy I spent many hours on both New Street and Snow Hill and did once go to investigate this, to me, mysterious Moor Street Station so I walked down Shut Lane, under the Park Street bridge and back up to the front of the station. On about three occasions I came into Snow Hill on a train from the south and wondered why the trains went past the outside of Moor Street Station.
Interesting to see that there is a drop of just over 30 ft in the open section of Shut Lane. Quite a steep incline.
Interesting to see that there is a drop of just over 30 ft in the open section of Shut Lane. Quite a steep incline.
DavidGrain
master brummie
No Jim. I don't think so. It looks to me as if this train is heading into the tunnel to Snow Hill in which case the photographer would have been somewhere along the top edge of Mike's map. Shut Lane was between the train and the warehouse. If you look at the retaining wall ahead of the train you will see that the top of the wall is stepped down as you go from right to left. This shows the gradient that I mentioned in Shut Lane. Between the Snow Hill lines and Moor Street Station was Moor Street Warehouse with a slogan shown on another picture that I have 'Where every £1 equals 24/-'.
This side of the train you see the entrance to the New Street tunnel below Moor Street Station.
This side of the train you see the entrance to the New Street tunnel below Moor Street Station.
norfolk brummie
gone but not forgotten
oldMohawk
gone but not forgotten
King George V steam engine leaving Moor Street Railway Station in Birmingham, bound for London, in 1971. Look at the woman on the right who has brought a small wheel pushchair across the ballast to get a good view.
I notice there is another 'Moor Street Station' thread with some pics ...
Edit : it's contents have now been merged with this thread
I notice there is another 'Moor Street Station' thread with some pics ...
Edit : it's contents have now been merged with this thread
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norfolk brummie
gone but not forgotten
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Love this photograph. In the late 40's' early 50's it was out of this main entrance, turn left, and a few steps to work.
Hi Norfolk brummie
Can you recall the very big building just along to the main corner of moor street and that goods yard
which in fact would have faced the old bull ring and st martins there again it would have beenjust before park st
where the ship pub used to be
the building i am thinking of is the original transport of vechicles and cars taxation department
this is forty and fiftys before they moved to ozools street off the broad street
Know in the fifty it later openend as a pub at the side of the building
you had to walk up alot of high rised wooden steps to enter it
Best wishes Astonian,,,,
Can you recall the very big building just along to the main corner of moor street and that goods yard
which in fact would have faced the old bull ring and st martins there again it would have beenjust before park st
where the ship pub used to be
the building i am thinking of is the original transport of vechicles and cars taxation department
this is forty and fiftys before they moved to ozools street off the broad street
Know in the fifty it later openend as a pub at the side of the building
you had to walk up alot of high rised wooden steps to enter it
Best wishes Astonian,,,,
oldMohawk
gone but not forgotten
Following discussion in the Snow Hill thread about the line from Snow Hill Station running past Moor Street Station, two aerial views posted in that thread might be of interest here.
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devonjim
master brummie
It seemed strange when catching "the metro" to Bull St from the Jewellery Quarter to be encouraged to cross the tracks to catch the tram when in a station environment. Quite happy to wander across the tracks in Corporation Street!
oldMohawk
gone but not forgotten
In a photo dated 1948 the bombsite next to the station had 13 Nissen huts on it.
image from https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/bomb-damage-in-unidentified-streets.45254/page-4#post-550352
image from https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/bomb-damage-in-unidentified-streets.45254/page-4#post-550352
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devonjim
master brummie
Tried to see on GoogleMap what Moor Street now looks like. Just make out the new platforms that serve the through trains. Is it a single track through the tunnel. Nissen hut site now a car park
p.s I can see by "zooming in" that there are in fact still two tracks through the tunnel.
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ellbrown
ell brown on Flickr
Apart from walking on the tracks at an open day at the Tyseley Locomotive Works, people walking on the tracks now is trespassing and causes delays or accidents. The penalty these days is £1000.
Near Tyseley
New Street
Stratford-upon-Avon Parkway
horsencart
master brummie
This view has changed a bit! https://www.flickr.com/photos/dofar...aCr-eU7GHM-eUjsYY-eU7X4D-eU7HPv-eU7Ywa-eU7F1t
DavidGrain
master brummie
Yes you are right there are two tracks through the tunnel. Both lines are in fact signalled for bi-directional running but how often this happens I don't know. Standing on platform 3 at Snow Hill and watching the signals, the letter U for Up Line is displayed when the signal goes green for a train to enter the tunnel.
devonjim
master brummie
Living in a part of the world where bi-directional lines are the norm, we are familiar with the exchange of tokens, I don't think that there I a physical exchange these days(not sure about that) but there is still a procedure that occurs at the stations where trains pass. Is there a similar procedure if these lines are used for bi directional travel.
DavidGrain
master brummie
Jim you are talking about the the tokens which control the movement of trains on single track railways. These are tokens taken from machines which allow only one token at a time to be out of the machine as it is the authority to the driver to be on that stretch of track to the exclusion of any other train. Since this system was invented there have been developments which provide the same level of security without the need to physically hand a token to the driver. There is what is called tokenless block working which I think operates a radio control system. Have a look at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Token_(railway_signalling)
for more information.
However modern signalling will provide electrical interlocking which will prevent a signalman setting up conflicting routes. I can give you an example. Last Friday evening my sister came to Birmingham from Oxford. A previous train had broken down in platform 4 at Oxford and until it could be moved all trains in both directions had to use platform 3. (platforms 1 & 2 are terminal platforms not available for through trains). The signals would be interlocked so that it would not be possible to bring two trains into the station from both directions at the same time.
