It's a sizeable chapel too. Agree Janice, it just doesn't seem to add up.
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Moat House, St John's House, Alum Rock/Alumrock House Alum Rock Road
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Radiorails
master brummie
Maybe the producer of the map was told that they were "catholic" by whomever gathered the information?
Im beating myself up not being able to recall more details on church i onlly entered it once asi said i spent all my time in the oldest part of the convent sorting doors and floors
But i add this im not sure what date that photo was taken i was raised as RC
I noticed there are no stations of the cross on the walls.
But i add this im not sure what date that photo was taken i was raised as RC
I noticed there are no stations of the cross on the walls.
To the left of the top photo is the garage
MMM that facia looks like the one i put up i did the roof on there
that was dueing my last week there.
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pjmburns
master brummie
I agree - no stations of the cross, no sanctuary light and no tabernacle that I could spot. I think that photo might be from the sale details after the Order of St John nuns left. In which case it was definitely Anglican then. Also built as Anglican according to Bill Dargue's info.
The single storey building to the left was used by the Nuns as a bakery
pjmburns
master brummie
This is the 1938 map the same year as the one I posted in #7 (slightly different scale) , It shows a totally different convent and church. This one is definitely Roman Catholic. It shows why I assumed RC chapel meant the chapel, at least, was Catholic not Anglican.
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This may be of particular interest to Donbogen. The annexe to the main house: the bakery
The Sisters of St John the Divine bought the premises in 1976 from the All Saints Sisters of the Poor who made Altar Breads
Source: Making Connections Annual Report 2012-2013;
The Sisters of St John the Divine bought the premises in 1976 from the All Saints Sisters of the Poor who made Altar Breads
Source: Making Connections Annual Report 2012-2013;
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Fantastic Viv
Nice to see a door i hung
I forgot to mention it was used as a air raid shelter
Note white bricks on corners.
Great, I was hoping you'd see some of your work !
Apparently a medieval chimney was uncovered when work on the site was being carried out - not sure exactly when.. Hopefully it was covered over abd not removed.
Donbogen - re. the white marked bricks, a nice snippet of history. Thanks.
thats interesting viv...wonder what was on the ground before the convent and chapel
lyn
Yes it had a concrete roof
Note supports in your photo
it was the only place we encounted rats on that site
ask me how i know i was first in there pitch dark and no windows then
Dont recall that i was told some of the timbers were hundreds of years old
there was a cellar under the old part of the building
one of the red tiled floors gave way
pjmburns
master brummie
Don't forget they took over an existing 18th century building. The chapel was newly built 1911/12 and is not listed
yes jan so wonder what the 18th century building was....interesting thread we never stop learning
lyn
Yes Bill Dargue gave us some history, see post #18 - not about the Chapel but the manor house and farm before the religious use of the site.
Before the name Alum Rock, this was Little Bromwich, and Little Bromwich Hall was here - it was a moated house..
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this map from 1830s not sure if it helps us as to what was there before but looks a different layout to later maps
Interesting Lyn, the reservoir and feeders for the Moat were still there in !830 (and by that time, the site was Alum Rock [Alumrock] House - mentioned by Janice earlier, in this thread). The reservoir has gone and is now a green space. How interesting.
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I recall no ground work being done on that site that would have been interesting.
Absolutely, especially a survey of the route of the Moat, imagine all the stuff that would have been thrown in there !
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