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lorraineb

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I have discovered that my great grandparents, James Shakespeare and Ellen Carter were married at St. Martin's Church on 22nd August 1858. If anyone could find any more information, i.e. their parents' names, names of witnesses, etc. I should be very grateful.

I am researching the Shakespeare family.
 
Hi lorraineb

Have looked on IGI and the marriage is there but parents names not listed or that of any witnesses. If you sent for the certificate you would at least have the fathers names and those of the witnesses

James Shakespeare/Ellen Carter 3rd qtr 1858 Birmingham 6d 103


bren
 
This is the best i could find in 1861 Census --

Name:James Shakespeare
Age:23
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1838
Relation:Head
Spouse's name:Ellen
Gender:Male
Where born:Balsall, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish:Hampton in Arden
County/Island:Warwickshire
Country:England
Street address: George Road
Occupation: Carpenter & Lath Cleaver
Registration district:Solihull
Sub-registration district:Knowle
ED, institution, or vessel:3
Household schedule number:27
Household Members:NameAge
James Shakespeare23
Ellen Shakespeare24 Chareley, Worcestershire,

bren
 
Could be Ellen in 1851 --

Name:Ellen Carter
Age:17
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1834
Relation:Visitor
Gender:Female
Where born:Chaceley, Worcestershire, England
Civil parish:Chasely
County/Island:Worcestershire
Country:England
Street address: Not Given
Occupation: Not Given
Registration district:Tewkesbury
Sub-registration district: Deerhurst
ED, institution, or vessel:6
Household schedule number:17
Household Members:NameAge
William Holbrook45
Matilda Holbrook20
William Holbrook12
Hanah Holbrook10
Ellen Carter17

bren
 
1851 Census, i would say this is the James i found in the 1861 Census --

Name:James Shakespeare
Age:11
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1840
Relation:Son
Father's Name:William
Mother's Name:Elizabeth
Gender:Male
Where born:Birmm
Civil parish:Birmingham All Saints
Ecclesiastical parish:All Saints
Town:Birmingham
County/Island:Warwickshire
Country:England
Street address: Lwr Camden St, 4 Camden Place
Registration district:Birmingham
Sub-registration district:All Saints
ED, institution, or vessel:13
Household schedule number:60
Household Members:NameAge
William Shakespeare42 Balsall, Lath Cleaver
Elizabeth Shakespeare42 Stratford-on-Avon
Ann Shakespeare13 B,ham
James Shakespeare11 "
William Shakespeare5 "

This could be his birth --

James Shakespear 3rd qtr 1839 Birmingham 16 229

I would still send for the marriage cert, then if his father is the same as above, you can be more inclined to think all this is correct


bren
 
1841 Census --

Name:Ellen Carter
Age:6
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1835
Gender:Female
Where born:Worcestershire, England
Civil parish:Chaceley
Hundred: Pershore (Lower Division)
County/Island:Worcestershire
Country:England
Street address: Hillend Villa
Registration district:Tewkesbury
Sub-registration district: Deerhurst

Household Members:NameAge
William Carter34 Agricultural Labourer
Ann Carter30
Ellen Carter6
Mary Carter5
William Carter4
Edward Carter6 Mo

All born in county.

I found a submitted record on the IGI

Christening: Ellen Carter, 15th June 1834, Chaceley, Worcester. Parents: William & Ann Carter
Christening: William Carter, 12th July 1807 Chaceley, Worcester

bren
 
details of marr cert are...

22 aug 1858

james shakespeare. full age. bachelor. lath cleaver. moor street. father henry shakespeare. carrier

ellen carter. full age. spinster. moor street. father william carter. carpenter

they both signed their names (unusual!)

witnessed by thomas shakespeare and sarah sketcher?
 
thanks for this. I am very new to this kind of research so any help is gratefully received. Can you tell me where you found the details of the marriage certificate
 
i have bought a disc from the bmsgh (if you google it you will see their website) with the records for st. martins.
 
does anyone rember anything about my ancestors who lived in "camden st, hingeston st, new spring st and several others.
their names were CARWITHEN, HOLLINGWORTH, BLAKE, HERBERT.
carwithens lived at 36 court 4 camden st , also christian buildings, hingeston st
and the herberts lived at 53 camden st almost on the corner of arthur st
also another name the hortons from new spring st no 99 i think
any glimmer of hope will suffice thank you ccarwithen
 
Ccarwithen, if you need a St Martins look up you will have to give us a few names dates etc. It takes a lot of time to search the records so if you can give as much specific info as possible it makes it much easier.:)
 
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