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Lower Loveday Street / Princip Street pub

I found this listing on British Listed Buildings

37 and 38, Birmingham

PRINCIP STREET
1.
5104 City Centre B4
Nos 37 and 38
SP 0787 NW 26/9
II
2.
Corner site with Lower Loveday Street. Early to mid Cl9 3 storey house and
works, stucco faded on brick and probably revamped circa 1900 when mansard
slate attic was added to single storey wing on Lower Loveday Street. Three
bays to Princip Street, bevelled corner and 2 bay return with 4 bay wing.
Rusticated ground floor up to first floor sill course. Shallow eaves cornice.
Windows in architrave surrounds with dentil cornices on first floor. Circa
1900 glazing bar sashes. Yard entrance and house door with pilaster case
and pediment of wood to Princip Street. Round headed corner doorway with
stucco pilasters turned in line with each street with long strips continuing
up to the cornice which is turned out to follow the pilasters. Segmental
arched high set windows to wing and 2 round headed doorways with rustication
struck into arches. Flat roofed 190O glazing bar dormers.



Listing NGR: SP0709787731
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The Fox & Dogs is shown on the 1889 map a lot further up the street on the opposite side (no63)
The Brittania Inn was at no 19, on the same side as the Lower loveday st junction, but further up.
Can't find reference to a pub there, though Have only had a look at a few directories & maps.
 
I grew up in Cliveland St. just round the corner from that building and as far as I can remember in all that time it was always offices.

Dave
 
Cannot findbuilding listed before 1855
1855 38 Princip St. Charles Orphin, retail brewer
From 1858- not listed,( though it might have been included in part of william Aston's button works)
1888 It is shared between a german silver manufacturer and a nickel works.
So it looks as if it was a pub for only a very short time (max 1849-54)
Mike
 
Hello Ell I remember this building and the first one along Princip st in the 60s belonging to St Chads as a residence for the nuns who also used to feed the homeless,they would come knocking on the door, as an electrician I had cause to go there to work. Dek
 
HI Paul;
yes you are quite correct it was a nunnery a sisters haven and home for the homeless women
and destiute for as far back as i can remember and that is some years now and it was some form of a hospital
as i remember from way back in the early 1900 i can remember bits of info; from my mother had told me years ao
but as from my boy hood days it was a nunns home that i do know right up until the late sixtys or the seventys
before that it was a type of the poor persons hospital where young girls whom fell pregnant and no where to go
i know that about four years now or just abit longer this place had been written about and knowledge was given about this place
on this forum by older and past forum members i do not know about the records jimas taken on when he took over from the previous owners
regarding its history knowledge but we did have info; given to us by our older forum members about this place the nunns
as i know it was a home with nunns loking after these poor women of needs whom later in the fiftys and sixtys was for domestic violence
a safe house run by the nunns whom kept there rules i learnt alot from the nunns myself because they had another big house on the bristol rd
which when they left there moved to bristol rd next to the beechwood hotel and that was a big house with grounds
it belong to an estate agents whom name i will not mention but he sold it to the sister hood organisation
but any way i will not say no more on that but thats what it was ; and yes the corner section of the building was offices and factory like premises but the pricp end was kept by the sister hood years before that ; it was what i said it bwas a form of hospital run by the nunns
for young girls and women only ;but they was forced to sell that end of and only kept the one side of the building
paul keep up the good work and have a great day the sun is shinning here in worcestershire ; best wishes alan astonia
 
Just to mention,there was another thread someone posted ,it was a picture for members to identify where was this building ?(very similar to the Town Hall ) very interesting comments where made.
 
I lived in Princip Street from 1964 to 1969. For a time i worked in the womens home run by the nuns. i lived in the yard opposite the cafe.
 
when i lived there only 1 cafe was in the street and no pubs at all. there were 2 yards and i was very happy to have a home there after 4 years of bedsits.
 
mavis have you looked at the 2 photographs on post 9 on the princip st thread ?

lyn
 
If there had been a working pub when I was there my husband would have been well pleased. The Turks head was the nearest or up loveday street cannot recall the name of that one. The hostel was run by Nuns on behalf of st Chads. It was only for women, and it was strictly catholic. It was for working women and they paid on a weekly basis. It was not a charity for the homeless. Woe to anyone who incurred the ire of the sisters the family’s would very quickly be informed. This building was the most haunted I have ever been in.
 
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