Location I.D.

[Vivienne14]

Next to the very tall street/commercial light on modern views is a telegraph pole (it appears alongside but is in fact further back and in a side street). See images below. The telegraph pole is on the corner of Warner Street and Warwick Street. Think it could be the same as in the B&W photo. If so, the buildings in view on the B&W photo are in Warwick Street, and are behind the pole.So those buildings aren't on Bradford Street.

So that makes me wonder when the car parts/garage building at #206 Bradford Street was built. (currently A1Clutches and in the 1980s was Phillips Garage). If we can find that out, we might have a more reliable date for the B&W photo.

Lots of 'ifs' and speculation, but that's how we get to the bottom of these queries by looking into a range of possibilities!

 

[brummy-lad]

It appears that the same company occupied #206 Bradford Street from 1921 (possibly earlier) until at least 1967/68 (possibly later), I don't have access to Kelly's after 1968.

 

[Vivienne14]

So I expect the current building was there before the B&W photo. Having said that, it's hard to tell in the photo what's behind the "Netools &" hoarding, and even if it is a hoarding. But worth a try to see if it works as a theory with the info we've gathered. Thanks, John.

 

[Keith R]

Another train of thought was that she helped out with charing and certainly her Aunt ( Beatrice) cleaned at Bulpits - probably Camden St along with her Mother ( Ivy's Gran).....and also another Aunt Leah got married and for a time lived in Camden St (need to confirm date but almost sure around 1939ish). Her address was in the low numbers mayber 20-40. Beatrice was there 1940 as she died from Asthma and Bulpits put something in the paper about her.She was only 20.

 

[Keith R]

Belated thanks to everyone who has helped with this search..........I can confirm that Ivy DID live at 5/32 Moseley Road,Camp Hill in 1950.
I have managed to get access to b and w negatives some which are probably from same roll as the pic of Ivy at the start of this post. Theres also some of people we dont know as yet that look like they are in a park with a factory behind that looks like a Norman C Potts. I have found some records of a factory online but no address as yet.

 

[Astoness]

hi keith so am i correct in thinking that you do not know the identity of the man and lady in the photo?

are you certain the photo was taken in birmingham? those houses look pretty up market to me..i agree it does look like the factory behind says norman c/e potts

hope you dont mind me saying but the man in the photo has look of you about him

lyn

 

[Astoness]

think there was a norman e potts factory at 130 moseley road and there is a park opposite..need to look on street view

lyn

 

[Astoness]

yes pretty certain photos taken at moseley road...here is todays st view..same houses that we see in the photos and if you swivel the st view round there is a park opposite the houses

lyn

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[Keith R]

the other names living at 430 kingsbury road are...arthur ghest..norman hall..lucy yardley

and at 5/32 mosely road the others living there are sarah oakley and frank baker


lyn

I wonder if the people in the photo are The ones mentioned above,,,,Sarah and Frank ?

 

[Astoness]

I wonder if the people in the photo are The ones mentioned above,,,,Sarah and Frank ?

if the photos were taken on the same day then i guess that is possible especially as they lived in moseley road....do you know if they had any children?

lyn

 

[Keith R]

I dont know why she would have negs for these snaps or who took them....thanks for confirming this sis Moseley Road.......

Going back to the original street where Ivy is standing I have more Negs and it shows a little more of the street.

 

[Keith R]

if the photos were taken on the same day then i guess that is possible especially as they lived in moseley road....do you know if they had any children?

lyn

I dont know anything about them....The negs are from different times as they include her wedding (1953) and later with we think her daughter...my wife....which is after 1957.....thought the original Ivy pic was just pre war when she would be late teens but confused now.

 

[Astoness]

I dont know anything about them....The negs are from different times as they include her wedding (1953) and later with we think her daughter...my wife....which is after 1957.....thought the original Ivy pic was just pre war when she would be late teens but confused now.

yes its confusing...you may never know who they are unless someone in the family recognises them

lyn

 

[MWS]

I dont know anything about them....The negs are from different times as they include her wedding (1953) and later with we think her daughter...my wife....which is after 1957.....thought the original Ivy pic was just pre war when she would be late teens but confused now.

Apologies if I've got the wrong end of the stick but isn't the lady in post #1 and post #41 wearing the same dress?

 

[Astoness]

Apologies if I've got the wrong end of the stick but isn't the lady in post #1 and post #41 wearing the same dress?

yes mark i think mark knows they are the same lady but he said he had just found some more photos of her...i think

lyn

 

[MWS]

Apologies Lyn.

I inferred that Keith suggested that the original photo was much earlier but the same dress seems to imply the same time?

 

[Astoness]

Apologies Lyn.

I inferred that Keith suggested that the original photo was much earlier but the same dress seems to imply the same time?

ahh yes i get you now mark..thanks i confuse easily these days

lyn