Thanks for the extra info on the 'Kingstanding Cliff'. I hope someone can recall the fair that visited from time to time. My memories of this particular area were only 2yrs in all but---as my old man liked to uproot often, we only stayed on average, 3yrs in any one place--11 addresses, 9 schools. Strangely, virtually all these addresses were in the Great Bar/ Perry Bar/ Erdington/ Kingstanding area. Reading all these personal stories make me realise just how close all my homes were to each other--we had'nt gone very far---all that upheaval, for what ? I remember leaving for school one morning ( Cranborne Rd) and going home in the evening to a different address, and school the following day (Beaches Rd). One other huge mound I recall at the top of Kingstanding Rd, but this time, it was on the right hand side----a huge cliff of black grit ? cinders? which backed up to the rank of shops on Hawthorn Rd All I know is that on the very top, which was levelled out, stood a dozen or so vehicles ranging from Furniture removal vans---to small vans and cars--some for sale. Now, my dad was a dealer in transport and new these other dealers who were named Jack and Alf Thompson. Does anyone know what became of them? or what stands on this plot now ? Cheers---golightly.