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Kardomah New Street and Colmore Row
- Thread starter Di.Poppitt
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This is another file from the same planning application, which shows it does not apply to the units with entrances on New Street but runs directly across from Cannon Street to Needless Alley. Maybe the back end of the New Street shops had been cut off to accommodate this shop?
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These mosaics must have been blocked in/encased/boarded over alongside the staircase - hopefully. See red dots. Or have they been painted/panelled over ? Hard to tell from the angle of Janice's heritage report photo.
And that lovely fireplace on the back wall thatbhas survived too. Theres a door alongside it. To where ?
And that lovely fireplace on the back wall thatbhas survived too. Theres a door alongside it. To where ?
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found this from planning mentions the mosaics
I don't seem to be able to open the link Lyn.
thats odd it was opening earlier viv.. its dated 1984 see if you can find the documents from this..the only planning i can find so far with the name kardomah is for the one in colmore row and thats dated 1961
| 56806007 | 47A NEW ST/NEEDLESS ALLEY | LISTED BUILDING CONSENT FOR IN TERNAL ALTERATIONS | Final Decision | 17-08-1984 | Approve subject to Conditions |
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pjmburns
master brummie
Links to the planning site don't work. Something to do with how the site creates the link - too technical for me.
You either need to post a link to the site and the planning number or post from the documents.
You either need to post a link to the site and the planning number or post from the documents.
The attached document includes a better version of the 1952 Goad map, and reveals that the interior spaces were substantially altered c. 2000.
And this shows a surprising ground floor layout.
done that jan on post 251
Here is the complete document, which does not rule out the removal of 42A's mosaics on their first floor. Shocking.
pjmburns
master brummie
I was typing when you posted it. Lol
lmr3103
master brummie
That’s great Mike! So that looks like there WAS a connection from the back door of the KD to the back door of Newton Chambers!
lmr3103
master brummie
The basement was accessed from the staircase at the left of the main shop entrance as per Dionysius’s recollections. Plus the grid that’s showing outside would tie in with a comment on here some years back about paper being pushed down the grid falling like snow into the basement….
lmr3103
master brummie
In Gail’s there’s still a door at the back of the cafe with an exit sign.
From Mike's linked doc in #254 of plan below, might access feasibly have been right across the back of the retail premises of #41(Unit 3), #42 (Unit 2) and #42A(Unit 3) ie from both the Cannon Street end and the Needless Alley/Newton Chambers entrance end ? Could the route from Needless Alley to the basement be along the blue dots ? And is it a lift space at red dot or something else/some other partitioned feature ? Perhaps, after all, this might be a reason why lease sale adverts once suggested an "imposing arcade entrance" (post #168).
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Richard Dye
master brummie
Is the street picture a current view?
Well, not really Richard, it was taken 3 years ago, but the latest available on Streetview.
I have a quite vague memory of someone's relative having a newspaper shop unit, I think in Needless Alley. And we had a discussion about where it was, and if my memory isn't mixing it up, the unit was somewhere around this spot. Anyone remember it? Or anyone remember the discussion ? I can't find it by a forum search.
I have a quite vague memory of someone's relative having a newspaper shop unit, I think in Needless Alley. And we had a discussion about where it was, and if my memory isn't mixing it up, the unit was somewhere around this spot. Anyone remember it? Or anyone remember the discussion ? I can't find it by a forum search.
Richard Dye
master brummie
Thank you! I was wondering if the street was actually still there, it looks really nice almost as I (think) I remember.
Yes still there. From memory, it always seemed to me to be mostly rear entrances to other buildings. And a 'cut through' to other places. Not a place to linger !
Richard Dye
master brummie
Exactly, a place to get from here to there and keep going especially as the sun goes down!
I'm pretty sure that's a fire exit. Looking at #262 it would lead to Needless Alley via the blue dotted passage. Needless is I'm afraid pretty rough these days, the back doors of bars and cafes- staff tend to come out for a smoke. But I agree not a place to hang around in.
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