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Iommi family

I found these two on my dna matches.
Debbie doesn’t seem to have any Italian in her thou which is odd.
But Giuseppe has a lot. Could possible be on that tree you found, I’ll try and drop them a message
I thought the surname was similar.
Also there are only two regions that come up on my DNA which are
southeast Lazio and Frosinone province. Im sure you mentioned one of them when referring to Luciano
 

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Suzanneiom said:
I found these two on my dna matches.
Debbie doesn’t seem to have any Italian in her thou which is odd.
But Giuseppe has a lot. Could possible be on that tree you found, I’ll try and drop them a message
I thought the surname was similar.
Also there are only two regions that come up on my DNA which are
southeast Lazio and Frosinone province. Im sure you mentioned one of them when referring to Luciano
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I find DNA fascinating, I am bit sceptical about some of the results at times though.

Frosinone is a province in the Lazio region of Italy. As I mentioned in the Italians in Bham thread it seems to be the origin of a fair number of the Italians that came to Bham.

I can't see the tree but it appears to stop at Luciano and Elizabeth Bradburn, so I don't think you'd learn anything further back from them, though they might shed light on Luciano in Cheshire.
 
There are 3 trees with Violet Mary Peck listed. (He is listed as Louchiano). One only has 18 people and doesn't help much. Another is private and seems to quite extensive but may be more about other parts of the family.
 
I think without further records becoming available online then your Italian ancestry is probably at a bit of a dead end atm.

It would be interesting to see what Luciano recorded on his marriage to both Elizabeths to see if it the info matches and what he put as his marital status on the second. I wonder if his second family new about his first.

Also Elizabeth Smith is a bit of an unknown before her marriage, we have her dob (which led me on a bit of wild goose chase to Coventry) and some relatives but going back would be just guess work to a degree. I have a likely candidate that matches most of what we know but with Smith I can't be certain.
 
Are you finding it difficult to trace Elizebeth before her children and marriages because of the smith name? also do you suspect she married Foster, while she was still married (but split) so she put widow? or could be the case it is the wrong Luciano and he did in fact pass away.
when he had his other children he would of been quite an age then.
 
Yes, there are lots of them born around the same time.

It wouldn't surprise me that she listed herself as a widow without knowing if Luciano was alive or not or even she knew he was alive. It wasn't an infrequent occurrence and who was going to check in those days. The chances of someone finding out would have been slim, especially if she knew he was no longer in the city. She may not have even told Alfred Foster (or Frank Barker) the truth

Elizabeth gives her dob as 16 Nov 1875 in 1939 and her father was a Henry Smith. On her marriage to Luciano her mother is listed as Elizabeth. On the 1911 and 1921 census she has a niece, Margaret, living with her.

She also has a sister, Jane, but when she marries she gives her mother's name as Mary Ann. This would imply that Elizabeth & Jane were not full sisters and neither were daughters of Henry' wife, Phoebe (1901 census).

I have found an Elizabeth birth reg. Dec 1875 Bham mmn Silvester. There is a Henry Smith that marries an Elizabeth Silvester and he is a widow in 1881. They also appear to have a son, Henry, who has a daughter named Margaret who was born about the right time as Elizabeth's niece.

Unfortunately, Elizabeth is not with Henry in 1881. This is not surprising, the young daughter of a recently widowed man may be with relatives. To find her though is difficult and I'm not sure where any of them are in 1891.
 
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