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Iommi family

I think I may have found Luciano.

In 1911 in Wellington, Shropshire listed as Luciano Pecolio b1867 Italy, an Organ Grinder. Listed as single.

In 1921 in Northwich, Cheshire listed as Luciano Peckio b1869 Italy, a labourer (?). Listed as married.

Later in 1921 he marries an Elizabeth Bradburn (listed as Charles Peck) reg. in Northwich and goes on to have 6 children (all listed as Peck).

In 1939 they are in Rudheath, near Northwich. He is listed Lusano Peck b1869.

His death is reg. Dec qtr 1946 Northwich as Luciano Charles Peck.

If it's him then it would seem that he abandoned Elizabeth but obviously can't be certain.
 
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Some circumstantial evidence to tentatively support it.

He called his first daughter Violet and 2 of his sons Antonio and Angelo. On his marriage to Elizabeth Smith his father's name appears to be Angelo Antonio.
 
MWS said:
I think I may have found Luciano.

In 1911 in Wellington, Shropshire listed as Luciano Pecolio b1867 Italy, an Organ Grinder. Listed as single.

In 1921 in Northwich, Cheshire listed as Luciano Peckio b1869 Italy, a labourer (?). Listed as married.

Later in 1921 he marries an Elizabeth Bradburn (listed as Charles Peck) reg. in Northwich and goes on to have 6 children (all listed as Peck).

In 1939 they are in Rudheath, near Northwich. He is listed Lusano Peck b1869.

His death is reg. Dec qtr 1946 Northwich as Luciano Charles Peck.

If it's him then it would seem that he abandoned Elizabeth but obviously can't be certain.
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Firstly when you said all this, I immediately thought that if he abandoned them all, that maybe why Alfred took the foster name when he joined up to the army. So Elizabeth sister married a Verrechia, they had some children and Alexandra was godmother to one?

and Luciano went on to have 6 more children which means the remaining 3 had lots of half siblings.
Its so confusing with all the name changing, I don't understand on the census because don't they fill that one out themselves, and when doing marriage or baptism documents, why not make sure its spelled correctly.
 
The 1911 and 1921 are usually self written but in Luciano's case he is in lodging houses on both so the manager/owner would have written it based on pronunciation.
Early censuses may contain errors because people couldn't read and write. Difficult with English names but even harder with foreign names.
 
pjmburns said:
The 1911 and 1921 are usually self written but in Luciano's case he is in lodging houses on both so the manager/owner would have written it based on pronunciation.
Early censuses may contain errors because people couldn't read and write. Difficult with English names but even harder with foreign names.
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Ah yes that's a point. I also notice that lots of people took in lodgers, was that to get help with paying bills?
 
The next 3 posts are the census/register entries thaat MWS refers to in post #541. In the case of 1911 and 1921 I haev also posted the address. Both of those seem to be lodging houses.

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Luciano 1911 address.jpg
 
Thanks. I'm don't know why I asked that, there's a possible seventh child with the wrong mmn listed but he's not born until 1940, so wouldn't be on there anywhere. Think I'm getting a bit frazzled.
 
I am confused and I am not searching.
We seem to be splitting the task - you search then I post.
Transcripts and spellings do differ between Ancestry and FMP which doesn't help.
Keep up the good work
 
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Luciano had 3 children with Elizabeth Smith - Alexandra, Violet (dies young) and Alfred Henry (who may not be his).

He then had up to 7 with Elizabeth Bradburn - all listed as Peck.

A note of caution. It does all fit but there is no real proof that the 2 Lucianos are the same person at the moment.
 
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Luciano had 3 children with Elizabeth Smith - Alexandra, Violet (dies young) and Alfred Henry (who may not be his).

He then had up to 7 with Elizabeth Bradburn - all listed as Peck.

A note of caution. It does all fit but there is no real proof that the 2 Lucianos are the same person at the moment.
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Ok yes I have those but for some reason also listed an Elizabeth as a 4th child so I’ll remove that.
He had a lot of children and all their families branch off somewhere. Wonder what the peck name is like now, or if it’s still listed as peck.
Could go on forever that line.
 
Michael is the 7th in 1940 with mmn listed as Bradbury, so maybe but not sure.

Joseph died at Arnhem in WW2. Molly, Angelo and Rosa never married, Rosa may still be alive. Violet married and moved south, and Michael (if he is relevant) married and remained in Cheshire.
 
It is a shame that Luciano's birthplace is listed as nothing more specific as Italy.

I have found a few tantalising mentions of both an Antonio Pecchia and an Angelo Antonio Pecchia. Unsure if they are the same person. Terelle is listed on all of them which is in the province of Frosinone, where a lot of the Italians in Bham came from (including the Iommis).
 
It all depends how likely you think that 2 Luciano's are the same person. Some people wouldn't until they had more proof.
 
There appears to be a small family tree on Ancestry that a descendant of Luciano's Cheshire family has done, possibly a great grand daughter or 2 x great grandchild.

It does have only 18 people though, so may have started and then just gave up like lots of people do.
 
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