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Inner Ring Road

Don't think the bridge is part of this summers tunnel refurbishments.

Elsewhere in the city, subways have been replaced in past years by street level pelican crossings. Don't think it would be possible at this end.
Although the Livery Subway is still further down the Queensway (linking both sides of Birmingham Snow Hill Station).
 
Thanks Bojalu!

Think I saw a sign the other day saying that Bordesley Middleway would be closed. Not sure when though!
 
An excellent record Ell of the changes. In the last photo post #59, what's the building with the foliage growing out of it? Viv.
 
Just a few more pics.

Broad Street is partially blocked off near the end. Buses can get through. But a Police officer makes sure that cars turn away.



 
Thanks all for the photos and the film clip. The modern view is almost unrecognisable to me. The Rotunda and St. Martin's Church means I'm able to place it, but that's all. And yes, the car park's an eyesore. I recognised so much in the film clip. Used the coach station a lot in the 1970s. Some aspects have been improved though. Viv.
 
Thanks all for the photos and the film clip. The modern view is almost unrecognisable to me. The Rotunda and St. Martin's Church means I'm able to place it, but that's all. And yes, the car park's an eyesore. I recognised so much in the film clip. Used the coach station a lot in the 1970s. Some aspects have been improved though. Viv.
This aerial shot might help you get your bearings a little..
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Aerial_Bull_Ring_Birmingham.jpg
 
Building the Inner Ring Road 1958, don't remember seeing this before...
[video=youtube;njrPZrs3wxA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njrPZrs3wxA[/video]
 
Of course officially we have not got an inner ring road any more. The section in front of New St station ceased being part of the ring road when they built the new BullRing shopping centre and only buses and taxis should use that section of road. What we have now is an OUTER ring road, plus a major road, the A38, that runs roughly North to South through the city. You can check this by looking at any recent A-Z, or looking at Birmingham in Google Maps.
 
Of course officially we have not got an inner ring road any more. The section in front of New St station ceased being part of the ring road when they built the new BullRing shopping centre and only buses and taxis should use that section of road. What we have now is an OUTER ring road, plus a major road, the A38, that runs roughly North to South through the city. You can check this by looking at any recent A-Z, or looking at Birmingham in Google Maps.
I know, do you think they made a mistake by not letting through traffic under the BullRing Tunnel? .Also the new Masshouse area is a nightmare to travel through and not much of an improvement to be honest.
 
Masshouse with free flowing traffic and buses with proper livery!, nice bit of nostalgia this..
[video=youtube;WegqsIczcmg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WegqsIczcmg[/video]
 
I know, do you think they made a mistake by not letting through traffic under the BullRing Tunnel? .Also the new Masshouse area is a nightmare to travel through and not much of an improvement to be honest.

I go up to Birmingham city centre quite a lot taking photographs, so have plenty of time to watch the flow of traffic round the city centre. Below is my opinion.

For years Birmingham council have seen the Inner Ring Road as a concrete collar, strangling the city and limiting its growth. Most businesses and companies want to be inside the "inner ring road" and not outside it.

The inner ring road kept the city centre small, and provided a barrier for locals and tourists who want to venture outside that inner core. So, for example, the Jewellery Quarter would probably be much more popular if people did not have to navigate their way over the A38 between Snow Hill station and the 1970's library.

So the council have been removing or "softening" that Inner Ring Road concrete collar for the last 20 years or so.

This has included knocking down the Masshouse roundabout and nearby roads, removing the section of Inner Ring Road in front of New St station, and also removing pedestrian tunnels from UNDER roads and putting the roads under where the pedestrians walk (such as the bridge that links the area around Victoria Square and Centenary Square (as you come out the 1970's library).

While I think all these were the right things to do, this is of course a long term project and you cant do it overnight. But you now finish with a bit of a "hotch potch" where parts of the inner ring road still exist (and are being used) and parts of the Inner Ring Road don't exist.

So, for example, they have removed the inner ring road in front of New St station, but all that seems to have done is push traffic BEHIND the BullRing, and the roads round near the Hippodrome, and Arcadian and the Markets are now clogged with traffic, as they were never designed to take that much traffic.

Also many cars still come into Birmingham down the A38 from Spaghetti Junction, but then reach the large junction (near the old Fire Station) and then pour down James Watt Queensway to get to the car parks near the Bullring. But the cars then find themselves going round Masshouse and into Park St (behind Moor St station) a road totally unsuited to masses of traffic coming in to the city centre.

So it is a bit of a mess, with large dual carriageways round parts of the city centre, then narrow roads like Park St (and others) unable to cope with the traffic.

I would like to see the council push more people out to the OUTER ring road.

For example many people, as I said, clog up the roads round behind the BullRing and Hippodrome while they try to get along Moor St Queensway back up to the A38.

But if they directed traffic along Digbeth or the Bristol Road OUT of the city to the Outer Ring Road they could rejoin the A38 that way, avoiding the city centre.

Sorry to go on, but the inner city traffic has been a bug bear of mine for a while, as I spend so much time walking round the city centre.

I think the council have done some things right, but there is still a lot to do (and of course the council are not awash with money)
 
Brumgum I loved the ring road one some fantastic looking cars and even a pony and trap. I wonder what the building was towards the end of it on the left handside of the road CML?
 
Brumgum I loved the ring road one some fantastic looking cars and even a pony and trap. I wonder what the building was towards the end of it on the left handside of the road CML?
Carolina ,it's stilll there it's the Colonial Mutual Life Building (Charles House) on Great Charles Street at the top end near the junction with Newhall St..

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ddtmmm/6726204765/
At about 2 min 58 secs i think you can see the Times building to the left.



I
also noticed the pony and trap, it's amazing what you can find on youtube.
 
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