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Hingeston Street
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cookie273uk
master brummie
where does the name Hingeston come from, does any one know ??? Eric
Brookieboy
gone but not forgotten
Hi cookie273uk,
Carl Chinn has written in "Streets of Brum" Part Two a Theory of Hingeston Street by Dave Morris - just in case you have not got the book I will quote the section "Dave Morris, now living in Southampton, was raised in Brookfields and recalls that many of the yards in Hingeston Street had name places in India. His father told him that 'there was a major or colonel Hingeston in one of Kipling's stories of India. I have never verified this but my father thought there might be some connection there, however tenuous' (Carl goes on to say) Given that Hingeston Street had emerged by the Mid-Nineteenth Century and that Kipling became famous decades later, it is unlikely that the builder could have been influenced by the writer. Still, there is somethingintriguing about Hingeston Street and its yards calling out to India. Dave Bicknell provides an explanation. He states that 'regarding the Indian Place names for groups of buildings like Serringapattam, Streepmoitore and Poonmallee, these are names of places where battles were fought between the East India Company's regiments and local Indians during the establishment of the Raj on the Indian sub continent.
Carl Chinn has written in "Streets of Brum" Part Two a Theory of Hingeston Street by Dave Morris - just in case you have not got the book I will quote the section "Dave Morris, now living in Southampton, was raised in Brookfields and recalls that many of the yards in Hingeston Street had name places in India. His father told him that 'there was a major or colonel Hingeston in one of Kipling's stories of India. I have never verified this but my father thought there might be some connection there, however tenuous' (Carl goes on to say) Given that Hingeston Street had emerged by the Mid-Nineteenth Century and that Kipling became famous decades later, it is unlikely that the builder could have been influenced by the writer. Still, there is somethingintriguing about Hingeston Street and its yards calling out to India. Dave Bicknell provides an explanation. He states that 'regarding the Indian Place names for groups of buildings like Serringapattam, Streepmoitore and Poonmallee, these are names of places where battles were fought between the East India Company's regiments and local Indians during the establishment of the Raj on the Indian sub continent.
Brookieboy
gone but not forgotten
Hi Cookie273uk,
You asked where the name of Hingeston Street came from, I replied 5 days ago a theory from Carl Chinn, as I have seen no reply from you I can only assume that you have not yet read the reply
scott7saunders
Brummie babby
Would love to get any pictures of Hingeston Street from 1900? tracing my Brummie ancestors and they lives at 7 Helena Place on Hingeston Street ..well thats what the 1901 census shows anyway 
Hi Guys
Sorry i am late getting on site but i will contact you both tomorrow evening with some think
i did live close to Hingestion street and knew alot of people and school friend from down that neck of the woods
and i did have a very good friends from around the number you have given a matter of yards from there
Astonian;;;
Sorry i am late getting on site but i will contact you both tomorrow evening with some think
i did live close to Hingestion street and knew alot of people and school friend from down that neck of the woods
and i did have a very good friends from around the number you have given a matter of yards from there
Astonian;;;
Hi there Brummie girl
Here is a couple of photo,s of old Hingestion street hockley which was birmingham 18
this is what the houses looked like and never changed from day one of them building them
all what changed reallly is the years i had a friend whom lived about 12 houses along from your number
i think you asked for the years 1939 ,upwards well i have gone some but i have to dig out my records
from 13 years ago when i did put this on and i think it was the same number what you are requesting
but because i am exremely busy with work load i have just come out and found two pictures as a tasterto expect
the house your reie lived in would be one of those terrace houses as you see in the first picture
along side of the pub ,called the rose and crown they are all like that from one end to the other end
meaning from the bottom of the street to far as you can see at the top of the page
there is a varity of house and names of the building as you go up and down on both sides of the road
and with courts and back to back houses amongest them
As I truely know of the street and of cathy come home story that was made for TV to show the counntry of
truely familiy hardships and poor state of the houses which we all know its not just brum
you can get a book on cathy and also you can down load a copy of the film
i was living within a mile of the street at the time and i went to the local schools at that period
as i said i had many friends living close to your family one was about 12 doors along another one facing that pub
which you see the rose and crown my friends was a family of litle kids and a sister whom we all went to the steward stret school
and until one day my friends father whom never done a days work used to sit in the house sitting by the fire side
they was another poor family only a pile of wood they got to burn to keep themselves warm
could not afford coal yet the coal wharf was up the top of that street
but he always had money for his ciggies my friend mother looked after her big family the best she could they was never dirty clothing on them she kept a highly clean house under the circunstances
and never ever went out drinking in pubs she looked after and protected her kids
until one lunch time in the week he told her to nipp across and fetch him his fags to fags
and because she was gone for ages and the pub is facing the front door , he thought some think was going on between them
that being the gaffer chatting up his wife so when she dashed back over to the house he was fuming
he shouted and attacked her accusung her of an affair as he sat there next to the fire with the axe in the bucket of wood
he stood up and chopped her in the head and of corse she was instanly dead
the family being so young was put into care
the second picture you see of the shops and you can see some little premises that used to be shops
which at some point was in there ay day was little private business i presume from the early years before 1939
well the first one in line just before that first shop was another friend of mine hishouse was oneof those little shop converted by the council as i said he was about twelve doors from your relie
and your relies house was smaller and it was almost at the beginning of hingestion street
coming from the corner of Ickneld street and the mint pub was on the corner on the right hand as you turned into the street and
on the other corner was was a little tiny shop it was a grocery shop then there was a batch of little houses
and the one was an off licence in those early days of 1800s early 1900s lots of people would be selling beers to people and the public as i shoud say from there front room so it roughly one of those i will find the excact one i did 13 years ago on this forum
i will come back soon as i can with the one you want all being well
so here are the ones to give you an idea of what the stret was all about with poverty there was lots of big familys living in those tiny little house but every body looked out for each other the street was always a dark feeling to it from way back 1900S
Best wishes Astonian,,,,,,
Here is a couple of photo,s of old Hingestion street hockley which was birmingham 18
this is what the houses looked like and never changed from day one of them building them
all what changed reallly is the years i had a friend whom lived about 12 houses along from your number
i think you asked for the years 1939 ,upwards well i have gone some but i have to dig out my records
from 13 years ago when i did put this on and i think it was the same number what you are requesting
but because i am exremely busy with work load i have just come out and found two pictures as a tasterto expect
the house your reie lived in would be one of those terrace houses as you see in the first picture
along side of the pub ,called the rose and crown they are all like that from one end to the other end
meaning from the bottom of the street to far as you can see at the top of the page
there is a varity of house and names of the building as you go up and down on both sides of the road
and with courts and back to back houses amongest them
As I truely know of the street and of cathy come home story that was made for TV to show the counntry of
truely familiy hardships and poor state of the houses which we all know its not just brum
you can get a book on cathy and also you can down load a copy of the film
i was living within a mile of the street at the time and i went to the local schools at that period
as i said i had many friends living close to your family one was about 12 doors along another one facing that pub
which you see the rose and crown my friends was a family of litle kids and a sister whom we all went to the steward stret school
and until one day my friends father whom never done a days work used to sit in the house sitting by the fire side
they was another poor family only a pile of wood they got to burn to keep themselves warm
could not afford coal yet the coal wharf was up the top of that street
but he always had money for his ciggies my friend mother looked after her big family the best she could they was never dirty clothing on them she kept a highly clean house under the circunstances
and never ever went out drinking in pubs she looked after and protected her kids
until one lunch time in the week he told her to nipp across and fetch him his fags to fags
and because she was gone for ages and the pub is facing the front door , he thought some think was going on between them
that being the gaffer chatting up his wife so when she dashed back over to the house he was fuming
he shouted and attacked her accusung her of an affair as he sat there next to the fire with the axe in the bucket of wood
he stood up and chopped her in the head and of corse she was instanly dead
the family being so young was put into care
the second picture you see of the shops and you can see some little premises that used to be shops
which at some point was in there ay day was little private business i presume from the early years before 1939
well the first one in line just before that first shop was another friend of mine hishouse was oneof those little shop converted by the council as i said he was about twelve doors from your relie
and your relies house was smaller and it was almost at the beginning of hingestion street
coming from the corner of Ickneld street and the mint pub was on the corner on the right hand as you turned into the street and
on the other corner was was a little tiny shop it was a grocery shop then there was a batch of little houses
and the one was an off licence in those early days of 1800s early 1900s lots of people would be selling beers to people and the public as i shoud say from there front room so it roughly one of those i will find the excact one i did 13 years ago on this forum
i will come back soon as i can with the one you want all being well
so here are the ones to give you an idea of what the stret was all about with poverty there was lots of big familys living in those tiny little house but every body looked out for each other the street was always a dark feeling to it from way back 1900S
Best wishes Astonian,,,,,,
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Hi Dibb44
I Most certainly do indeed and george street west and around brookie infact the whole area was my patch
and also all the pubs was our mannor there are familys and school friends whom are also well known
and i recall the old blue police box up on the corner by the boozer
and down on the corner by the mint pub and the second hand shops facing the mint whom our kid and myself
went to school with his family owned the four shops of second hand furtiture and i bought puch bikes from them
if you had any think to sell to them his parents was not to bad in offering the right price but the fourth shop was there
where the grand mother was living she was a very bad dealer she would offer you penniesfor your goods
and to buy from her she was a shark indeed, i can say that because over 12 years ago we mentionioned this on this forun
and his parents was members to this forum all those years ago and they made contact with us
and his father agreed about his mother
but any way dibb i knew alot of people from new spring street as well
also the old shop which i was gonna mention on the last thread to brummie girl but she would not have known
the area but it became a cafe coffee bar called the volcano and one summers day the owner got shot
the pub just across the road just down from the rose and crown i think it was the hickey whom ran it
it was the laurals pub he got stabbed the kid got five years in borstal
any way dibbs i have to close here as i have to go out speak again best wishes Astonian;;;
I Most certainly do indeed and george street west and around brookie infact the whole area was my patch
and also all the pubs was our mannor there are familys and school friends whom are also well known
and i recall the old blue police box up on the corner by the boozer
and down on the corner by the mint pub and the second hand shops facing the mint whom our kid and myself
went to school with his family owned the four shops of second hand furtiture and i bought puch bikes from them
if you had any think to sell to them his parents was not to bad in offering the right price but the fourth shop was there
where the grand mother was living she was a very bad dealer she would offer you penniesfor your goods
and to buy from her she was a shark indeed, i can say that because over 12 years ago we mentionioned this on this forun
and his parents was members to this forum all those years ago and they made contact with us
and his father agreed about his mother
but any way dibb i knew alot of people from new spring street as well
also the old shop which i was gonna mention on the last thread to brummie girl but she would not have known
the area but it became a cafe coffee bar called the volcano and one summers day the owner got shot
the pub just across the road just down from the rose and crown i think it was the hickey whom ran it
it was the laurals pub he got stabbed the kid got five years in borstal
any way dibbs i have to close here as i have to go out speak again best wishes Astonian;;;
Hi Dibbs many thanks for down loading the pictures they are fantasic and brilliant
such memorys good ones may i had i hope our old friend on the forum mossy as tuned in these photos as mossy was also around in those days with another old friend of mine dear old micky midnight as was is nic name
thanks again Alan,,Astonian;;;
such memorys good ones may i had i hope our old friend on the forum mossy as tuned in these photos as mossy was also around in those days with another old friend of mine dear old micky midnight as was is nic name
thanks again Alan,,Astonian;;;
Hi Dib,
Great photos the three shops you have mentioned I went to most of my childhood, comics from Swains, sweets from Mrs Lilly. I was sent to the Cooked meat shop for a 1/4 boiled ham or pork for my dads sandwiches, bacon from Wrensons, and bread from Mills's picking bits off the crust all the way home.
Vinny
Great photos the three shops you have mentioned I went to most of my childhood, comics from Swains, sweets from Mrs Lilly. I was sent to the Cooked meat shop for a 1/4 boiled ham or pork for my dads sandwiches, bacon from Wrensons, and bread from Mills's picking bits off the crust all the way home.
Vinny
The shop here is number 130 GSW. called Mrs Nights.
My Mum and dad took it over in the early sixties and turned it into a cafe I lived there for about 3 years and before that I lived at no. 159.
Vinny
Thanks for the photo, your right about the Laurels got very rough the last few years I lived around there, fights nearly every week, a couple of very rough families were always causing trouble one of them got shot with a shotgun, he was the main trouble maker, he survived and it calmed him down a bit.
Vinny
Hi vinny
Yes i recall the shotgun shooting that was down along on the corner of Hingestion street
there was a couple of gangs in action whom everybody knew whom they was it was namely two big familys
The incident was at the volcano coffee bar and it was on a friday afternoon
As i recall it that was facing the mint pub you may recall
apart from that it was a nice quarter
best wishes Astonian,,, Alan,,,,
Yes i recall the shotgun shooting that was down along on the corner of Hingestion street
there was a couple of gangs in action whom everybody knew whom they was it was namely two big familys
The incident was at the volcano coffee bar and it was on a friday afternoon
As i recall it that was facing the mint pub you may recall
apart from that it was a nice quarter
best wishes Astonian,,, Alan,,,,
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I rember this well.
I went there many time as a kid to fetch brown ale for an old lady that lived up the next entry in one of the back houses, when I got back she would press a sixpence into my hand and was always very grateful.
Can you imagine now days a 10 year old fetching beer!
The outdoor became a betting shop, the shops next to it a green grocery and a fishing tackle shop.
Vinny
Hi Vinny
I have got afew photos of old Hingestion street and the shops at the moment i am ploughing through my very old
Files for some one going back about ten years now but if i can spot them i will pull them out and put them up
but i have got a lot to get through first and i know one or two of our moderators may still have the odd one
that can put up for you being you mentionion the fish tackle
I do not surpose the sylvester family ring any bells with you as they lived very close to the shop
Speak soon Astonian,,,,,, Alan,,,,
I have got afew photos of old Hingestion street and the shops at the moment i am ploughing through my very old
Files for some one going back about ten years now but if i can spot them i will pull them out and put them up
but i have got a lot to get through first and i know one or two of our moderators may still have the odd one
that can put up for you being you mentionion the fish tackle
I do not surpose the sylvester family ring any bells with you as they lived very close to the shop
Speak soon Astonian,,,,,, Alan,,,,