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Hingeston Street

hi there
I can say one thing like maggs it was a hard and poor working class area but people was working hard in those days
and yes it was a tough area as far as gangs of kids went ;but there was none of this carrying ons like today ;
it was hard to make ends meet and the houses back to backs and with there teracess and yards but neibour helped each other
it was never looked down and out of course times was hard for every body but we all worked i dare say there was the odd one out ;
such as cathy come home must to my surprize the film makers found some one but the street was never like they portrayed it never in a month of sundays ;
you go down there now its a complete disgrace the council want to regenerate theout skirts not the city for all these yuppies as we call them ;
with the expensive appartments as the big white house forgot the poor working class of today ;
even dudley rd and winson green ; if my memory serves me correct i think it was in the evening mail at the time in the years around late fifty or the early sixty period because of the over growding of the jail they was gonna do away with it andbuild a new one ;
i drove around old maggs area a week ago up pitford street and pased the old brokie school what an appaling condition ;
crab tree rd is as bad as ever at least it was clean and the proptrys was ingood condition ;
i see old r whites pop factory is all about little car dealers operating car repais more scrap cars pon the rd out side than repaired
onian best wishes , Astonian ;;
 
Regarding the infant murder: I have not found anything as to whether the perpetrator was ever found but I did find this, from the Birmingham Post,

(the other piece was from the Birmingham Gazette) which gives a little more detail -- if you have the stomach for it.
 

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Another piece from the Birmingham Post with an Hingeston Street connection dated Friday 13 Jan 1882.
 

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I remember the murder of mrs Hanlon, I was about 10 years old at the time, I went to steward school and one of the boys was in my class, we took toys to school for them, the children went to father hudsons home,
 
Dalias, my friend also remembers this murder, as she lived in Hingeston St at the time. She would also have been about 10 yrs old, and had her picture taken by the Sunday Mercury at the time, close to the murder scene. She has, unfortunately lost the photo. I see you went to Steward St school. My friend at that time was attending Ellen St school. Isn't it sad that the boys had to go into a home? I was also living in the same area, but I can't remember the murder.
 
hi maggs ;
have not heard fromyou for a long time i hope you are wel now, i am totally surprized you do not recall the mrs hanlon ;murder
you lived virtulay on the door step ; so to speak ; [ thats a figure of speech maggs ] i can recall the day and time as we was friends with bryan ;
and good muckers [ blondie was is nick name because he had the blond hair ; [ blondie hanlon ]along with another long term friends whom you know as well the adams family [ nipper and cousins and old joyce adams bless her sole ; she came and told us that being nipper and dave and myself at lunch time
they came and fetch the boys out of school ;and took them away ; lovely woman ; 'they shoulfd have hung him ; alan astonian ;;;
 
I did live virtually on the doorstep of Hingeston St Alan, but I honestly don't remember anything about that murder. I suppose being young, it didn't mean a lot to me really. I think my friend only remembers it because she lived close to the house where the murder took place. I think I would have remembered it too in those circumstances. I'll ask my friend if she remembers your friend Bryan , who was nicknamed Blondie, and if she remembers Mrs Joyce Adams. Very sad that those boys were taken out of school and sent off to a home. Wonder if the murderer is now dead himself?

I am keeping well thank you Alan, and I hope you are too.
 
Dear Astoness,

My Ggrandparents lived at No 66 Hingeston Street and I am trying to get a picture of the street (if one exists). However, I see all these grey blocks with 'Thumbnail attached' but do not know how I can access the attachments. Am I allowed? How do I do it? Sorry to interrupt your brilliant work on the thread.
 
hi colin....our forum was hacked last year and we lost all of our images so the ones that you cant see are lost forever..members are trying to repost as many back to the forum as possable so if you go to post 66 all the reposted pics of hingeston st start there...plenty to look at...hope this helps you...

lyn
 
Hi, Lyn,

Sorry to be a nuisance but how do I get to post 66? (I am a newbie - and not too bright at that - so I hope you will make allowances.)

Colin
 
hi col not a problem im still new at this myself half the time..right then click on where it says FIRST at the bottom of this message and that will take you to post 1 then click on page 2 and so on....get back if you are having problems...
post 66 is on page 5
lyn
 
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Hi, Colin37, You didn't give a name or a date but wondered if this might be of interest to you:

Kelly's Directory 1895, No. 66, Hingeston St., Weaver, William H. confctnr.

There are no other mentions in Kelly's of this house number that I have access to.

Ed.
 
I found out this week that my dad lived at number 9 Hingeston street in the early 1960's he was also in the film cathy come home, they filmed it on their road. 17 Hingeston Street No 11 Brookfields 23-6-1958.jpg

This image was given to me by Carl Chinn, he said number 9 is the third shop on the right, this is where my dad would have lived. does anyone remember them living at number nine

sarah
 
Hi Brummie
I would also like to asked you what year did your relie last run that cafe as i am trying to vizulize the cafe ? ,
I am not doubting about your thread it just i cannot place it at the moment
i know years ago there was an old little house that sold beers in the early 1900s along there from the corner but i just cannot place the numbering
i know there was a news paper shop and a bit of a provisins shop on the corner and i can recall the little houses but for the love nor money i
Cannot think of the numbers my mate lived close to the litle shops silvester and a rake of kids i knew but i cannot lace the shop ;
but i do have a old friend on here and he his also friends on the forum ; but i knew our old friend mossy years ago when he was in his youth
and his a friend of another old friend whom pased away some years now but i think our forum member may recall the cafe whom your relies ran
whom ran this little cafe you are on about ; the only cafe i can recall is the volano cafe on the corner of hingestion street and it was opersite the
mint pub which i recall as having those little houses on the same side of the street and may be thats where your family cafe was
because as i have said and i hope mossy is seeing this thread as i know he was always down on hingestion street more times than me
with friends of mine and his when he was not working the shift at barker and allens on dudley road
but i would like to know what year they was there so may be i can recall itbest wishes astonian;;
 
As I lived near the bottom of Warstone Lane during the 1950's, I was always down Hingeston St too. I remember a little sweet shop which also sold Ice cream and possibly newspapers too. I think the Ice cream they sold was Eldorado. This shop was with one or two others at the Mint end of Hingestion St. Opposite there was a bakers shop that sold mini cottage loaves for 6d. I used to go down every Sunday for the Ice cream. I really don't remember a cafe, but maybe it was higher up the street. I don't recall how the numbers ran either. I only went up the top end of Hingeston St when going on the No 96 bus, which ran from town, up to Lodge Rd.
 
HI MAGGS
The only cafe on the corner of hingestion street at the mint end was the volcana cafe and it was still operating right up untill the demolition of the
the hingestion street and ickneild street and in the sixties there was a shooting there of the owner he survived
he was a foreign guy i cannot think of his name ; but i would be prety sure our forum friend mossy may recall his name as he was more regular there
than me it was done by a member of one of the family members of a well known family that spent there time in there
i knew the family and the person whom done so did mossy would have known him a well the person got time for it ;
as its been mentionioned in time hingestion street got a reputation for being rough and for murders there as been three to my knowledge
and there was always gang fights i my self was involved with one with a couple of them out side the cafe along with a old friend whom his family
are well known even today we was long time old friends sadly he as died he committed sucide afew years later
our friend as not come back on this subject but i have give it some deep thought
and as tyou walk from the mint pub along towards heading up to the heading so to speak of hingestion street i think as i try to vizulize
at one point there was i beleive a little premises which at the time of my thinking walking along there was once stood a shop which wasclosed down
and with the name of a cafe which was never ever openened up again and thats when the volcano come in after that ;
the little shop you speak of was three doors from my friends house the silvester whom became a butcher at walter smiths by the libary
the little shop came betwen george street west and i think it was Ellen stret as well on your left hand walking up hingestion street
have a nice day best wishes Astonian;
 
The cafe would have been there betwwwn 1964 and 1970 at least because thats when they lived there, they also lived there when cathy come home was filmed
 
The house you are talking about, we moved into, found out about the murder as I got older, the house was a back to back knocked into one, I swear it was haunted, we got broke into whilst we were living there, so I to have good and bad memories.
 
The house you are talking about, we moved into, found out about the murder as I got older, the house was a back to back knocked into one, I swear it was haunted, we got broke into whilst we were living there, so I to have good and bad memories.

Living in a house where there was a murder, which had a ghost and which was broken into must have been quite an expreience. Start of a good mystery story there, I guess. Have you any pictures of the street at that time? They would be of great interest to the thread.

Incidentally, I have been out of action for some time so I do apologise to the people who have sent me a message to which I have not replied. Sorry!

Colin37
 
Not many spirits mean any harm, would probably reacted to the break in?
If anyone is interested in books and Photos refering to Hingestion Street I would suggest "A trip down the Flats" by Garry Smith: "Winson Green To Brookfields through time" by Ted Rudge: Winson Green and Brookfields by Peter Drake.
 
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