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High Street Deritend Digbeth

Thank you for sharing, Ell. 164 High St Deritend is grade B listed, though as yet I have not found a report of the age of the building. I'll come back to this if I can find more information.
 
No problem BordesleyExile.

All I can find in Pevsner Architectural Guides: Birmingham (by Andy Foster) is:

(for High Street Bordesley)

Two classical shops of c. 1860 and the Rainbow pub, rebuilt in Gothic style c. 1876 with good detailing.
 
high st digbeth..dated..1955

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Lovely Photo Lyn. Haddon and Stokes on the right and Birds Custard on the left, no sign of the Camp Hill Flyover yet.Dek
 
hi dek..the flyover wasnt long to follow it think. i should have a few more i can add to this thread will hunt them out..

when time permits could admin please move this thread to the streets and neighbours section please...

thank you..
 
Hi Astoness
Would the cross on the building opposite Birds Custard belong to St Johns Church demolished in about 1947 as I have never seen a photo of this church were many of my Ancestors were Baptised.

Regards Acklam.
 
hi acklam it could very well be st johns..maybe someone could confirm this from the location..there have been pics on the forum of the church..im sure i posted one of them but i would have to search my files..if i do come accross it i will repost it for you...

lyn
 
cant believe i found it so quick acklam so here is st johns..this pic also shows the golden lion pub which was dismantled and rebuilt in cannon hill park..there was talk of bringing the pub back to the the high st...

lyn

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The 1955 view was interesting. I recall in the early 1950's the removal of the trams tracks and the widening of the road. I have not seen, until now, what the roads appearance was after the work. Passing by the Birds factory always gave me a nice, if hungry, feel; I have always loved custard (when nicely made of course) all my life. :biggrin:
 
Hi Astoness
Many thanks for the super picture of St Johns I think it was the nearness of the pub that would have attracted my people to that particular church with the excuse of wetting the babies head.

Regards Acklam19.
 
Hello Carolina the large building on the right is Digbeth Police Station the photo has to be middle 70s maybe later. Dek
 
Hi Astoness
Many thanks for the super picture of St Johns I think it was the nearness of the pub that would have attracted my people to that particular church with the excuse of wetting the babies head.

Regards Acklam19.

lol acklam i think you are right there..

nice pic carolina..dek you just beat me to saying it was the police station on the right..
 
Re: photo 37 with Birds custard & St John's church ??? Does this mean that Haddon & Stokes was built on the site of the demolished St John's Church ??
I am very interested because my grandparents married at St John's in 1912 & in the 1960's I worked at Haddon & Stokes !!!!

Margaret.
 
hi skylark it has not been confrimed if the pic on post 37 is st johns...if you look at the pic on post 40 of the church it does not have a spire so we cant be sure as yet..

lyn
 
I am pretty sure that the picture on post 37 is St Johns and the camera location is close to the bridge over the Rea. The church angles out on to the road as shown on 1890 OS. Damaged during the war and demoed in 47 it reads. I wonder when the picture was taken. It looks pre-war to me. The tower is out of the picture right if it was there at that time. Some of the buildings in the distance on the left side are still on GE. I would have thought that it is a mid thirties picture and certainly one of the last sightings of the church. A little jem for this reason. So is the picture of the Golden Lion...in place and obviously a basket case condition even before it was removed...it all was. No maintenance done in those days seemingly. The last comment reminds me that I am goofing off from finishing my kitchen reno. The bad back excuse wont fly much longer.
 
Thank you Lynne & Rupert....I am still amazed at the possible coincidence of me working at H & S on the site of the church where my grandparents were married, this site continues to add so much info to my family history...thanks again.

Margaret.
 
I agree with Rupert. the 1908 picture below shows that the tower was set back, but also that just to the left of it was a building with cross on the apex of the roof, as is present in the other photo
Mike

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Incidently, notice the recruiting poster (I assume that's what it is) opposite. It could have been designed by a modern designer
Mike
 
Filling in little gaps in ones life experience...even if you did not know they were there...can be exciting at times. Mike, that last photo is a stunner. Not posed and things going on and as you point out; period data. Maybe the forces were always trolling for recruits but perhaps also there were vacancies due to losses in the Boer wars. I suppose the Empire always needed to be held down in places. Perhaps the Golden Lion is taking a delivery. I suppose the delivery wagon might just be parked there but since one flap is up, a delivery might be in progress.
I travelled past that place on the old Midland Reds many times. That streetscape was long gone by then of course and the factory just mentioned by Skylark would have been the landmark. I would have passed St. Johns in the earlier years though and the demolition would have been in progress perhaps. It meant nothing back then...well lets face it there were many destroyed buildings around and one more would not be significant. Another gem.
 
thanks rupert and mike..what a great pic mike..just a little more info..st johns church was demolished in 1947 and the golden lion was was dismantled and reconstructioed in cannon hill park in 1910..
 
Lyn has suggested that a map showing the position of St john's might be nseful. Below is a map c 1937, which shows the church, and also Devonshire House, which was the Bird's factory,

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Like someone else mentioned on here; I like custard and as he stated 'it has to be made right' and be the right texture. I have found that custard is a British thing perhaps. Never find it on the menu here in NA possibly because it's an extra thing to make and not bothered with because of that. Still...what a loss!! Never to have had the luxury of 'hot jam tart and custard' or 'tart Apple tart and custard' (gotta use cooking apples). Steamed pudding and cus...I can't go on...getting hungry. It's apple pie and cheese here...on the same plate...can you believe it? Most have Apple pie and ice cream here...most desert with ice cream actually...well its easy...just a scoop from the freezer. Never be as good as custard though.
 
As mentioned on other threads, the River Rea was prone to flooding. This is a report and drawing of one of those incidents which happened in November/December 1852. The sketch was made from below Deritend Bridge. Viv.

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apologies if this is not a new one to the thread but i cant recall seeing it..high st with st martins in the distance and rea st on the left...i like this one...1930s

when time permits could this thread be moved to the streets section of the forum...many thanks..

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