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Gosta Green Through Duddeston
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Phil
Gone, but not forgotten.
Here are a couple of photo’s of “the parlour” of two houses in Bloomsbury St. That’s a laugh in itself, if parlour meant living room, kitchen, bathroom, and sometimes bedroom then that’s what it was. Most of the two storey houses consisted of 3 rooms only. 2 bedrooms upstairs and one room downstairs.
The one photo shows a simple fire hearth, with the obligatory wire fire guard needed if you had small children. This must have meant that the house had one of the old small gas cookers supplied by the Birmingham City Corporation. For those who don’t remember them they were little gas cookers with four burners a grill and an oven constructed from cast iron. As the grill was only about 2 ft from ground level, if you were making toast you had to squat down on your haunches to watch it didn’t burn.
The other photo shows the old cast iron cooking range that some people were sad to see go. They were thought to save money by some as they doubled as a source of heat and a cooking appliance. The drawback was the need to keep a fire burning winter and summer. Believe me those little houses could soon become as hot as a greenhouse in the summer months. The other thing is these ranges had to be religiously black leaded (cleaned) every week. Its another farce in itself that although living in one of the worst deprived area’s of Birmingham that the woman of the house, every week would black leas the range, sweep and wash down the pavement outside the house, and then scrub and red cardinal the front step.
Happy memories
Phil
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The one photo shows a simple fire hearth, with the obligatory wire fire guard needed if you had small children. This must have meant that the house had one of the old small gas cookers supplied by the Birmingham City Corporation. For those who don’t remember them they were little gas cookers with four burners a grill and an oven constructed from cast iron. As the grill was only about 2 ft from ground level, if you were making toast you had to squat down on your haunches to watch it didn’t burn.
The other photo shows the old cast iron cooking range that some people were sad to see go. They were thought to save money by some as they doubled as a source of heat and a cooking appliance. The drawback was the need to keep a fire burning winter and summer. Believe me those little houses could soon become as hot as a greenhouse in the summer months. The other thing is these ranges had to be religiously black leaded (cleaned) every week. Its another farce in itself that although living in one of the worst deprived area’s of Birmingham that the woman of the house, every week would black leas the range, sweep and wash down the pavement outside the house, and then scrub and red cardinal the front step.
Happy memories
Phil
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bobsummers
Gone but not forgotten. R.I.P.
Phil I do love and enjoy your photos mate, have you thought of having your own exhibition of your old Brum photos, preferably at the "council house" or at the Museum next door? I'll sell the tickets and you can have a cut!
Phil
Do you know when the houses in bloomsbury st (whose interiors you show) were built. I ask because the picture could have been the living room of the house I was brought up in the 50s(except for the actual fire place, which was different). The mantlepiece above the fire (including the scrolled supports), the cupboards beside the fire, the drawers below the cupboards with the big knobs. Also the mirror,fire guard and clock, but these were changeable. The point is , my old house was built circa 1810, and was in Chichester, presumably built 50 years before these. Maybe mine was changed to fit a later style, or maybe design didn't alter.
Mike
Do you know when the houses in bloomsbury st (whose interiors you show) were built. I ask because the picture could have been the living room of the house I was brought up in the 50s(except for the actual fire place, which was different). The mantlepiece above the fire (including the scrolled supports), the cupboards beside the fire, the drawers below the cupboards with the big knobs. Also the mirror,fire guard and clock, but these were changeable. The point is , my old house was built circa 1810, and was in Chichester, presumably built 50 years before these. Maybe mine was changed to fit a later style, or maybe design didn't alter.
Mike
Phil
Gone, but not forgotten.
Bob
Re your last post
I couldn't do that as I have no copyright on any of the photo's that I post.
I work on the assumption that copyright on any photo prior to 31st December 1945 except those in protected collections has run out, and therefore I am entitled to post them to this forum if I wish.
As I am not trying to make any money or gain from these photo's I cannot see what harm it does. If in error I post a photo I should not, then I am always willing to give a credit for the photo or remove if so wished.
I think many of the other posters of photo's on this forum work under the same principal as myself.
Phil
Re your last post
I couldn't do that as I have no copyright on any of the photo's that I post.
I work on the assumption that copyright on any photo prior to 31st December 1945 except those in protected collections has run out, and therefore I am entitled to post them to this forum if I wish.
As I am not trying to make any money or gain from these photo's I cannot see what harm it does. If in error I post a photo I should not, then I am always willing to give a credit for the photo or remove if so wished.
I think many of the other posters of photo's on this forum work under the same principal as myself.
Phil
Phil
Gone, but not forgotten.
mikejee
Sorry I can't say when the houses in Bloomsbury Street were built, at a guess I would say that it would have been around the same time as your own.
Once they had got hold of a good cheap build design, it was built all over the country. Never forget that these houses were built by investors and not local Councils, so they didn't care where they were built. As long as the rent got paid, that is all they cared about.
The difference in fireplaces is not significant, it probably means that the range was removed when a gas cooker was installed.
In Birmingham you will know we have many Estates of Municipal houses or inter war houses as they are sometimes known. There are I think five basic designs to these type of houses. Who is to know where the design came from as I have seen this type of dwelling all over the country.
Phil
Sorry I can't say when the houses in Bloomsbury Street were built, at a guess I would say that it would have been around the same time as your own.
Once they had got hold of a good cheap build design, it was built all over the country. Never forget that these houses were built by investors and not local Councils, so they didn't care where they were built. As long as the rent got paid, that is all they cared about.
The difference in fireplaces is not significant, it probably means that the range was removed when a gas cooker was installed.
In Birmingham you will know we have many Estates of Municipal houses or inter war houses as they are sometimes known. There are I think five basic designs to these type of houses. Who is to know where the design came from as I have seen this type of dwelling all over the country.
Phil
Phil
Gone, but not forgotten.
Ernie
Heres another one you should recognise with no problem I hasten to add a little after this photo was taken 1895. Lupin Street and there is only one location in that street that had a bend to the right like that, and that was at the junctions of Little Francis St and Francis St.
Phil
Heres another one you should recognise with no problem I hasten to add a little after this photo was taken 1895. Lupin Street and there is only one location in that street that had a bend to the right like that, and that was at the junctions of Little Francis St and Francis St.
Phil
bobsummers
Gone but not forgotten. R.I.P.
Phil
With all your knowledge of buildings and Streets in Brum central how about a tour group of forum member around the town ? make for an enjoyable day and to meet the other interesting people we read on this site!
THEN WE CAN DISCUS YOUR 1ST. EXHIBITION!!
With all your knowledge of buildings and Streets in Brum central how about a tour group of forum member around the town ? make for an enjoyable day and to meet the other interesting people we read on this site!
THEN WE CAN DISCUS YOUR 1ST. EXHIBITION!!
Phil
Gone, but not forgotten.
Bob,
I think you give too much credence to my knowledge of Birmingham, I only know areas that I have lived in at one time or another. Others I have learned a little of, owing to the fact that the nature of my work took me to most of the so called deprived areas of Birmingham.
There are large areas of Birmingham that are a mystery to me and that I have not got a clue about, having never even visited them, but I do have to say that with the help of this forum, I am learning more and more each day, and may I say how grateful I am for that knowledge. In return I think it only right that I should pass on what little knowledge I have managed to accumulate.
Bob I would also add that I think the idea of a forum tour of some of the old Birmingham buildings and sights has merit, perhaps it is something that the forum members could think about for perhaps next year.
Phil
I think you give too much credence to my knowledge of Birmingham, I only know areas that I have lived in at one time or another. Others I have learned a little of, owing to the fact that the nature of my work took me to most of the so called deprived areas of Birmingham.
There are large areas of Birmingham that are a mystery to me and that I have not got a clue about, having never even visited them, but I do have to say that with the help of this forum, I am learning more and more each day, and may I say how grateful I am for that knowledge. In return I think it only right that I should pass on what little knowledge I have managed to accumulate.
Bob I would also add that I think the idea of a forum tour of some of the old Birmingham buildings and sights has merit, perhaps it is something that the forum members could think about for perhaps next year.
Phil
I remember that area of Lupin Street, if its the opposite side to the little shop, a mate lived across the road and those houses had back gardens,
there were entries ( tunnels between some houses to the back gardens )
but only at random intervals.
Phil. Getting back to the Saint Lawrence Church photograph, there was a large pipe ran in the gutter ( I can only assume that it came from the canal higher up Love Lane as a Air Raid fire precaution. I feel sure that this photograph dates as the other photograph in Dartmouth Street that had the sign for the Air Raid shelter. The double doors in Love Lane next to the church was an entrance to the Delta Metal Company.
Phil
Gone, but not forgotten.
Ernie
If the idea was feasible, I am sure a little thing like disability scooters could be gotten around. Perhaps the hire of collapsible wheelchairs could be arranged. I'm sure there would be plenty of volunteers to push.
Phil
Great Lister Street in August 1988 before Rupert Street was extended.
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Can anyone make comments as to where was the " Old Nelson " pub. Where was Silk's Cafe in relation to the photograph. Tovey's the ironmongers. James the bike shop and Lister Square on the Photograph ???
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Can anyone make comments as to where was the " Old Nelson " pub. Where was Silk's Cafe in relation to the photograph. Tovey's the ironmongers. James the bike shop and Lister Square on the Photograph ???
brumgum
Proud to be a Brummie!
I've got many stories from this area as both my parents originated from Gosta Green, my Mom from Aston Rd and Dad from Lawrence st. I've found my Dad's family were living Lawrence st as far back as 1881 and My Mom's family were in Gem st in 1891.
My Nans second husband was Jim Ashton a Greengrocer at 262 Aston Rd near to Budds shop,they all left the area in 1955 but my uncle lived at 13 Aston Rd untill the early sixties.
We have a paperback book:
The ABC of UK Photographic Copyright... ISBN 0 9514671 1 5
Published by British Photographers' Liaison Committee.
Georgie