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Hi Bob. Perry Beeches II in JQ is now open and has it's first year 7 cohort. The Academy (along with Perry Beeches in Great Barr) has a good reputation. https://www.perrybs.bham.sch.uk/perry-beeches-the-academy-trust/

These are all good signs for the area such as people wanting to get their children into the school, consequent demands on property, knock on effect for local businesses etc etc. Now I suspect that there was a similar outlook when the G&D extended in the 1860s that is in the form of the Albert Works (now Argent Centre) when it opened its doors. A lot of activity with that and other developments around the area. So let's hope history repeats itself. Looking good so far. Viv.


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Exactly Ell. The plans at the moment are restaurant downstairs and accommodation upstairs. Been watching with interest what's going on at the Coffin Works and it's a great example. But these places need to have a good reason for people to make the effort to visit them. If the G&D is to serve food, it has to be good food, and a serious alternative or option compared with all the other restaurants nearby. With the regeneration going on around the building, let's hope it has future as a part of that. Viv.
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One option is to dismantle it and rebuilt it at some heritage museum! Then fully restore it!

See this example at the National Tramway Museum



And this one at the Black Country Living Museum

 
Must take a lot of hard work and money to rebuild these in a museum. But hope the G&D stays where it is. It will be an excellent compliment to the Square. Viv.


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viv ive been in the bottle and glass many times and they even rebuilt the old cellars of the pub which are used today...amazing work carried out by the bcm and they are still adding to it...it took 3 years just to rebuild brick by brick a small house that is there...i can only take my hat off to them..its just a pity brum did not have the foresight to take on a similar challenge when they had the chance to...

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Well there's an idea Lyn, Birmingham needs a big piece of land where it can re-build all it's 'in danger' pubs then! A public house museum. Re-build a selection of the different period pubs and serve up decent ale. Hold beer festivals, show how the beer is made (love those big copper thingys), get some shire horses in there, barrel making, invite craft brewers to offer tastings, museum of all the paraphernalia ..... Could go on and on. Viv


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Vivienne14 said:
Well there's an idea Lyn, Birmingham needs a big piece of land where it can re-build all it's 'in danger' pubs then! A public house museum. Re-build a selection of the different period pubs and serve up decent ale. Hold beer festivals, show how the beer is made (love those big copper thingys), get some shire horses in there, barrel making, invite craft brewers to offer tastings, museum of all the paraphernalia ..... Could go on and on. Viv


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morning viv ive long since thought on those lines....too late of course for things like our old housing and other buildings that have long since gone but its not too late to save some of our pubs and have as you suggest a brewery type outdoor museum...but in reality and im by no means a pesamist i just cant see it happening in birmingham...too busy widening roads..building metro lines etc and then of course we will have HS2 coming to town...and what do we have?? the little back to backs which over the years have proved to be very popular...not good enough for a city as large as ours....rant over..for now

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oh wow i never thought i would see the day when the scaffolding would come down on this pub and reveal what looks so far to be an excellent restoration job...must have been quite a headache for the developers over the years...well done to all concerned at least it is another saved building..

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oh well done mr rafferty never thought i would see this pub re opening...must check it out when its open could be a possible forum meet up venue...

thanks viv
 
george and dragon is looking good..pics taken today
 

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The best it's looked in a very long time Lyn. So good to see this sort of refurbishment. Viv.
 
well folks here it is..the newly refurbed george and dragon now called the PIG AND TAIL..it re opened just 3 weeks ago:) and i must say i think it has been done very tastefully inside and out...was talking to the new owner mark rafferty who admitted it has been a big job saving this old pub...nice to see that he has kept the name of the george and dragon the carver st side..well done mr rafferty (pic 4) i wish you well and thanks for saving this pub..few pics here taken today

lyn
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That's an interesting read Lyn. I'd say the area's vastly improved then since 2007. Just had a stroll on Streetview and there seems to be lots of activity and some stunning examples of Georgian architecture (and not delapidated either). I'm hoping that the Jewellery Quarter is doing its bit to promote itself. Surely it has since 2007? If not they're missing a golden opportunity - no pun intended.

The plans for the G & D sound appropriate to me too. Residential upstairs (as it would have been as a pub) and restaurant downstairs. The different levels of the buildings would add interest, the windows and external architecture more interest and maybe the JQ could even promote the best of its history e.g the Dayus connection, the pub as part of the workshop community etc etc. Always keen to see the positives! Viv.


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Viv I called in there for a pint many a time during the 70's , Wilson Jones the ex Welsh International was the gaffer then he was a gentleman . Although I'm no football fan , I listened with interest when he and customers used to discuss the game between then and when Wilson used to play . Good old days
 
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