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Garrison Street
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Hi Mikejee
Many thanks for the info you have given me ,it is much appreciated. Can you tell me if the house numbering system followed Odd then Even so that 37 precedes 38 followed by 39 or in this case because of the large factory opposite they resorted to the conventional evens one side odds on the other?
Thanks again for your swift response.
Lesg128
Many thanks for the info you have given me ,it is much appreciated. Can you tell me if the house numbering system followed Odd then Even so that 37 precedes 38 followed by 39 or in this case because of the large factory opposite they resorted to the conventional evens one side odds on the other?
Thanks again for your swift response.
Lesg128
Phil
Gone, but not forgotten.
Mike
I can't ever remember being houses on the factory side of Garrison St. I think from the beginning it was the cable & rope works (Wrights?) then it became the Land Rover depot where they made the canvas hoods for the Land Rover trucks. We worked for the Rover at Garrison St supplying skips and I don't ever remember a house on that side of the road. There again my memory is getting terrible.
Phil
I can't ever remember being houses on the factory side of Garrison St. I think from the beginning it was the cable & rope works (Wrights?) then it became the Land Rover depot where they made the canvas hoods for the Land Rover trucks. We worked for the Rover at Garrison St supplying skips and I don't ever remember a house on that side of the road. There again my memory is getting terrible.
Phil
Phil
Its very possible they disapeared long before you knew it or that they weren't houses but shops ( though i would assume shops would be numbered) . I'm only going from the 1901 map below, which seems to show two houses/shops between green st and midland st. It is on a different sheet than the other part of the street.
mike
Its very possible they disapeared long before you knew it or that they weren't houses but shops ( though i would assume shops would be numbered) . I'm only going from the 1901 map below, which seems to show two houses/shops between green st and midland st. It is on a different sheet than the other part of the street.
mike
Hi zeeta I found a short film clip on the mace site of a level crossing closure in 1967 supposedley in Garrison Lane . I don't remember a crossing in Garrison Lane and presume they mean Garrison Street by the big tip could you have a look and give your opinion please . Bernie
https://www.macearchive.org/Archive...e-level-crossing-closure/MediaEntry/8719.html
https://www.macearchive.org/Archive...e-level-crossing-closure/MediaEntry/8719.html
db84124
Brummophile
Hello, Bernie,
Having researched this question in some detail, I too am convinced that this level crossing was in Garrison Street, and not in Garrison Lane.
The “Private No Admission” sign in the video was on the Garrison Street approach to the level crossing which gave access to the Garrison Farm Brick Works; only authorised persons could make use of the crossing and enter the works.
The crossing was known as “Brickyard Crossing”, as the map shows.
The signal box in the video can be seen on the map, but it does not seem to be there on google
My only doubt is the fact that the house between Garland (or Green) Street and Garrison Street appears to have been drastically modified; in the video the building has a window on Garrison Street whereas today the house has a door onto the street where the window had previously been. A downpipe has been removed. Despite this, I am convinced it’s the same building.
Best wishes, David
Having researched this question in some detail, I too am convinced that this level crossing was in Garrison Street, and not in Garrison Lane.
The “Private No Admission” sign in the video was on the Garrison Street approach to the level crossing which gave access to the Garrison Farm Brick Works; only authorised persons could make use of the crossing and enter the works.
The crossing was known as “Brickyard Crossing”, as the map shows.
The signal box in the video can be seen on the map, but it does not seem to be there on google
My only doubt is the fact that the house between Garland (or Green) Street and Garrison Street appears to have been drastically modified; in the video the building has a window on Garrison Street whereas today the house has a door onto the street where the window had previously been. A downpipe has been removed. Despite this, I am convinced it’s the same building.
Best wishes, David
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Hi zeeta
I also was born in Garrison St 'number 38' and lived there for I think 5 or 6 years. The house faced onto the street opposite Wrights Ropes where my mother used to work before I was born in 1931.I have strong memories of the Street especially the far end at the railway bridge. Unfortunately I have no recollections of a level crossing but remember playing on the canal near the lock. We were always being chased away by the lock keeper. The house I lived in was a 'back to back' and had an entry down oneside which led to a courtyard where the 'brewhouse'was situated.My mother always used to talk about the crowds of men walking down the street to go to the Birmingham City football ground.She said they always marched down the street like soldiers.
lesg128
I also was born in Garrison St 'number 38' and lived there for I think 5 or 6 years. The house faced onto the street opposite Wrights Ropes where my mother used to work before I was born in 1931.I have strong memories of the Street especially the far end at the railway bridge. Unfortunately I have no recollections of a level crossing but remember playing on the canal near the lock. We were always being chased away by the lock keeper. The house I lived in was a 'back to back' and had an entry down oneside which led to a courtyard where the 'brewhouse'was situated.My mother always used to talk about the crowds of men walking down the street to go to the Birmingham City football ground.She said they always marched down the street like soldiers.
lesg128
That's where we thought it was in a discussion on another forum David , I think you are 100% right . I was just loking for confirmation from someone who lived there but it seems a few people have come to the same conclusion , thanks for shareing your hard work David much obliged .
Bernie
Bernie
brummie nick
master brummie
According to ‘Kelly’s directory for 1968-69 the last property between Garland St and the Railway crossing was at 131A Castle Art Products Ltd [Die Casters]
dek carr
gone but not forgotten
the level crossing which gave access to the Garrison Farm Brick Works;
I remember it well in the 50s the brick yard was finished we used to play on there and called it Bordesley Tip but we had another way on to it go up Landor St to Adderley Rd South by the end of the Morris Commercial Factory it was quite desolate but one day we found a Sky Larks nest. Dek
I remember it well in the 50s the brick yard was finished we used to play on there and called it Bordesley Tip but we had another way on to it go up Landor St to Adderley Rd South by the end of the Morris Commercial Factory it was quite desolate but one day we found a Sky Larks nest. Dek
db84124
Brummophile
.... and I've found this on the Internet :
View attachment 67854
There is no mention of these premises on Google Earth or Google Maps; I guess it must be a recently-constructed building .....
There again, mikejee can find no reference to this address either. If Mike can't place it, I'm beginning to believe it really doesn't exist !!!!?!
David
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Hi David The Accordion Centre was mentioned on the other forum here's a link Bernie
https://smallheath.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=2175&page=1#8102
https://smallheath.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=2175&page=1#8102
db84124
Brummophile
Bernie,
Although The Accordion Centre's website gives the address of the business as 131 Midland Street as seen in Post #17, if one goes to the Thomson Local.com site and types "accordions" and "Birmingham" in the appropriate search boxes, it comes up with The Accordion Centre and lists the address as 5-7 Garland Street. If one then goes to Google Earth (or Google Maps) and whams in 5-7 Garland Street, the Street View view shows a company called Matts and Jenkins Ltd. By looking up Matts and Jenkins on the Internet (Google, Internet Explorer, Firefox, etc.), you're taken to the company's website and lo and behold! abracadabra! the address is 5-7 Garland Street!
Mystery over. The house on the corner of Garland Street (or Green Street) and Garrison Street is a residential home and not The Accordion Centre.
Case proven.
Best wishes, David
Although The Accordion Centre's website gives the address of the business as 131 Midland Street as seen in Post #17, if one goes to the Thomson Local.com site and types "accordions" and "Birmingham" in the appropriate search boxes, it comes up with The Accordion Centre and lists the address as 5-7 Garland Street. If one then goes to Google Earth (or Google Maps) and whams in 5-7 Garland Street, the Street View view shows a company called Matts and Jenkins Ltd. By looking up Matts and Jenkins on the Internet (Google, Internet Explorer, Firefox, etc.), you're taken to the company's website and lo and behold! abracadabra! the address is 5-7 Garland Street!
Mystery over. The house on the corner of Garland Street (or Green Street) and Garrison Street is a residential home and not The Accordion Centre.
Case proven.
Best wishes, David
brummie nick
master brummie
In the 'Kelly's for 1968-9 that I have ,all the pubs in Birmingham are listed, I'd say on 99% of them it gives the Rd, or St number of them, one exception is the Queens Head, it just says 'Garrison St'
planetmalc
New Member
Just for a change, here's a query about the other end of Garrison Street.........
A couple of years ago, I watched the demolition of a derelict petrol station that was situated on Lawley Street, between Garrison Lane and Garrison Street. They dug down several feet below the road surface in Garrison Street and uncovered a series of large arches, tiled in brown and white, in really good condition (like it had been buried yesterday). The structure looked very 'railway'. Does anyone know what used to stand on this site?
A couple of years ago, I watched the demolition of a derelict petrol station that was situated on Lawley Street, between Garrison Lane and Garrison Street. They dug down several feet below the road surface in Garrison Street and uncovered a series of large arches, tiled in brown and white, in really good condition (like it had been buried yesterday). The structure looked very 'railway'. Does anyone know what used to stand on this site?
My family lived at Back 38, Garrison Street, Aston. My Grandad died in this property at the young age of 39. He was a rope makers labourer. I am struggling to find out any more information of the family as they came to Birmingham from Germany. The name was Peter Suss (sometimes spelled as Siess) and his wife was Sarah Jane. His Father was Frederick. Any ideas to help me trace more info would really be appreciated. (Did many Germans arrive in Birmingham at this time and why?).
Hi Sonj
My family lived at the front of 38, Garrison Street, Aston. which was accessed by your family must have been in the Courtyard behind us .Contact me <lesg@yellowforge.com> Les Green
My family lived at the front of 38, Garrison Street, Aston. which was accessed by your family must have been in the Courtyard behind us .Contact me <lesg@yellowforge.com> Les Green
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Hi Sonj
Pleased to make your acquaintence.
My name is Leslie Green and I was born on Garrison Street at No. 38 which was on the street front.
I think your family lived at No. 1 Back of 38 Garrison Street. Entrance was gained down an entry to a large Courtyard with
a Brewhouse and Gas lamp.
My mother also worked at Wrights Rope Works on the spinning machines.
My sister who passed away recently, used to refer to a person, who had lost a leg, called Frank.
Would love to make contact with you.
Regards Les
Hello,
I’m trying to find out more of my family tree, found out a bit but we have found an address, so trying to find more information on it, 109 garrison street, my family are from a German back ground and lived there around 1939, can’t find anything online not even pictures of the house. So any information would be helpful!
Thanks
I’m trying to find out more of my family tree, found out a bit but we have found an address, so trying to find more information on it, 109 garrison street, my family are from a German back ground and lived there around 1939, can’t find anything online not even pictures of the house. So any information would be helpful!
Thanks
Hi sonj I’m trying to find similar information about my family, they lived on the same street at number 109 and were from Germany and lived there around 1939. Hope this if anything is helpful.