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mazbeth
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doing roasted chicken thighs and mashed swede.
Yesterday made home-made tomato and basil soup.
Yesterday made home-made tomato and basil soup.
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MY WIFE STILL TREATS ME TO THE OLD BELLY DRAFT , NOW AND THEN ,
I LOVE THE OLD CRACKLIN ,
WITH BREAD AND BUTTER , BUT MY WIFE WILL NOT TOUCH IT ,
SHE SAYS IT,S A POOR MANS FOOD , [ SILLY GIRL . DON,T KNOW WHAT SHE,S MISSING ]
BUT WHAT I DO MISS IS SOME DECENT BREAD, YOU CANNOT GET FOR THE LOVE OF MONEY
THESE DAYS , WITH ALL THE ADDED INGREN;
I USED TO LIKE HAWLEYS BREAD , THE BAKERY ON MOSELEY RD .
IT WAS NEXT TO A CHURCH , WALK PAST THERE THE SMELL WAS GOEGOUS ,
THAT COMBINED WITH THOMPSON,S THE BUTCHERS ON LICHFIELD RD
AND A LITTLE BIT OF TRIPE , MADE A LOVELY MEAL ,
WE WAS POOR , BUT NEVER WENT HUNGRY , WE ONLY HAD STORK MARGINRENE,
WHEN MOST PEOPLE HAD THE BEST BUTTER,
MY OLD DUTCHESS , [ THE WIFE WAS BROUGHT UP ON BEST BUTTER ]
SHE CALLS IT MAGGIE -ANNE,
GETTING BACK TO THE OLD BELLY DRAFT , IT,S STILL CHEAP ,LOVELY , AND IT MAKES A MEAL
SO GET TUCKED IN YOU OLD BELLY DRAFT ,S AND ENJOY IT B.
HAVE A NICE DAY EVERY BODY , ASTONIAN ,;;;;
I LOVE THE OLD CRACKLIN ,
WITH BREAD AND BUTTER , BUT MY WIFE WILL NOT TOUCH IT ,
SHE SAYS IT,S A POOR MANS FOOD , [ SILLY GIRL . DON,T KNOW WHAT SHE,S MISSING ]
BUT WHAT I DO MISS IS SOME DECENT BREAD, YOU CANNOT GET FOR THE LOVE OF MONEY
THESE DAYS , WITH ALL THE ADDED INGREN;
I USED TO LIKE HAWLEYS BREAD , THE BAKERY ON MOSELEY RD .
IT WAS NEXT TO A CHURCH , WALK PAST THERE THE SMELL WAS GOEGOUS ,
THAT COMBINED WITH THOMPSON,S THE BUTCHERS ON LICHFIELD RD
AND A LITTLE BIT OF TRIPE , MADE A LOVELY MEAL ,
WE WAS POOR , BUT NEVER WENT HUNGRY , WE ONLY HAD STORK MARGINRENE,
WHEN MOST PEOPLE HAD THE BEST BUTTER,
MY OLD DUTCHESS , [ THE WIFE WAS BROUGHT UP ON BEST BUTTER ]
SHE CALLS IT MAGGIE -ANNE,
GETTING BACK TO THE OLD BELLY DRAFT , IT,S STILL CHEAP ,LOVELY , AND IT MAKES A MEAL
SO GET TUCKED IN YOU OLD BELLY DRAFT ,S AND ENJOY IT B.
HAVE A NICE DAY EVERY BODY , ASTONIAN ,;;;;
jennyann
Gone but not forgotten. R.I.P.
Great post Astonian....you can still buy pork belly draft here but I haven't had any for years.
My father loved all kinds of different foods to my Mother. His family were from Wolverhampton originally and there is a definite difference in what types of meals he liked from my Mom who was born in Birmingham.
We had Stork margarine as well and the best butter was for special occasions and
Sunday tea.
My father loved all kinds of different foods to my Mother. His family were from Wolverhampton originally and there is a definite difference in what types of meals he liked from my Mom who was born in Birmingham.
We had Stork margarine as well and the best butter was for special occasions and
Sunday tea.
:chef:
jennyann
Gone but not forgotten. R.I.P.
I know about "Kippers and Curtains" but not Kippers in custard. I would imagine the custard is savoury Astonian? Could be wrong though. I'm cooking lamb today but I am doing a Greek style menu for a change from Roast Lamb, Potatoes, Onion Sauce, Peas, Gravy and Mint Sauce which I love. The house smells amazing. I'm using New Zealand lamb. Lamb wasn't popular when I first came to Canada and I used to walk miles in Toronto looking for ethnic butchers shops that sold lamb. It was soul destroying at times
because I had made up my mind I wanted a lamb chop or two and it was such a
trek to find any at all. There were very few ethnic restaurants in Toronto then mainly Chinese and Italian and one German place.
The food descriptions in this thread are so yummy. My husband loves Swede but over here they call it Turnip. Thank goodness his parents were Brits as he knows a lot of the British food types.  My Dad's family, coming from the Black Country as I mentioned, loved pickled walnuts, pigs feet, pigs jowls, tripe, lamb and caper sauce and all manner of local foods not too many people would eat now.
because I had made up my mind I wanted a lamb chop or two and it was such a
trek to find any at all. There were very few ethnic restaurants in Toronto then mainly Chinese and Italian and one German place.
The food descriptions in this thread are so yummy. My husband loves Swede but over here they call it Turnip. Thank goodness his parents were Brits as he knows a lot of the British food types.  My Dad's family, coming from the Black Country as I mentioned, loved pickled walnuts, pigs feet, pigs jowls, tripe, lamb and caper sauce and all manner of local foods not too many people would eat now.
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mazbeth
Guest
I've heard people say that before...but it's strange as turnip is a separate, usually smaller, vegetable, with a different taste (I prefer swede).jennyann said:
your lamb dinner sounds delicious, I can almost smell it from here
I don't get lamb much as I don't like fatty meats, and to buy a really lean joint can be quite expensive here.
So it's mainly chicken in this house...but as I can cook it a million (slight exaggerationÂÂ
) ways, we're ok.Peter Walker
gone but not forgotten
Astonian said a day or two ago that he couldn't get decent bread. Over ten years ago we stayed at my son's place in USA to mind the babbies while they went off for the weekend (not a dirty one, but to get a new job, as they sometimes do things there). One of my tasks was to learn how to use their bread making machine. After a couple of goes I was converted, and bought a Japanese Panasonic one as soon as we got back. In those days they cost nearly £200, but I soon reckoned that the machine would pay for itself in about two years in savings on buying ingredients. 11 or 12 years later the same machine is still working two or three times a week, no repairs needed, though it's getting a bit brown on the inside! They are much, much cheaper now, and you can do a lot with them - more than the manual tells you. Is it too late to ask Santa if he could see his way to bringing you one?
Peter
Peter
jennyann
Gone but not forgotten. R.I.P.
They are very popular here Peter. I have never tried one but I really should as I love to make bread and have loads of yeast in my freezer. You have to get into a routine to make a bread machine an asset to your kitchen so I understand from Market Research I have seen and people I have talked to. Yes, they were hugely expensive when they first came out but are much cheaper now. I'm glad to hear that you have had one since they came out and have used it. I am going to buy one in the New Year and will have a go. I understand you canmake many kinds of bread in them. There is no problem buying excellent ingredients in certain health food shops and organic shops. Supposed Quality bread is so expensive these days and it doesn't live up to expectations I find.
Reply to Maryrose.Don't like brains?One of the finest foods you used to able get.Not allowed to now of course but you don't know what you've missed.
We always used to get ours from Yeoman's butchers on Benson Road and they were great. I tell my kids about them and all I get is yeeough!Does anyone remember condensed milk sandwiches.We had them all the time as it was cheap and sometimes,if we had any,we would put sugar on as well.Sweet or what??
We always used to get ours from Yeoman's butchers on Benson Road and they were great. I tell my kids about them and all I get is yeeough!Does anyone remember condensed milk sandwiches.We had them all the time as it was cheap and sometimes,if we had any,we would put sugar on as well.Sweet or what??
A.Willoughby
master brummie
Remember condensed milk sandwiches? I still live with them. My good lady buys condensed milk solely she can make herself them. Now as a lad I would put sugar on my bread and butter (well margarine actually) but I grew out of it. My wife? It is still her treat to have those sandwiches - Yuck!!! - Will.
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Beryl M
Guest
So sweet condensed milk sandwiches - would make me ill LOL
food [ maggie ann ] margerine
yes will i had the same antics as you when making sandwiches
when my mother was,nt looking i would lean onto the table and help myself
to aspoon of sugar and springle it onmy bread , [nice and sweet yumi ]
we only had the margerine every day whilst most people had butter
except on a sunday when i had to go to mr parkes the grocers on lichfield rd
which was at the bottom of our terrace [cromwell terrace ] and two doors from matty,s radio and tv shop on saturday to get the old mans best butter
for his sunday tea ,this butter was the old butter patter on grease proof paper [ i used to like old parkie patting the butter before weighing it
and putting the money in a wire cash carry holder zooming across the shop floor and zooming back with the change
when i was born i was brought up on what you call bread and sopp
dried bread and water mixed togetherin my early infant days
then i was progressed to bread and dripping ,
then i got the maggie ann margerine
we was so poorin those days ,by the time i reached 7 or eight years old
i got lucky we was taken down to grandfathers fish and chip shop
and eat in the shop on late friday night after the tea time rush of customers at the aston cross shop of ernie jelfs chippie
but when i look back nowand remember why did my mother end up with a no hoper with my father,he always worked but there was never any money in her purse always in his he worked at charles harriss bakelite molders
on lodge road at the flat hockley
but the story goes and what i have leart from a high ranking relative
he met her in the pally club at bordesly and leart of the wealth of the family
and tryed to mussle in on them he moved in with them at newcannal street
but they seen through him and gave him a rejection
they tookhim to court to warn him off but it didn,t work
he enticed her to run off to aston and that was her down fall
lost her carrer , and brought to poverty, we did,nt have to stave
but the jelfs disowned her at aston cross in park lane there was a haven
full of grocery provisons two storie high ware hous at the back of park lane
food of all discriptions irecall going inthere oneday and my father and motherasking herfather for food and help, but he declined
and had a go at my father for not providingforhis daughter
he hated my father andhe never spoke to her in forty years until the months of his death when sad lonely and homeless
she took him in
so i can recite about thepoor days of maggie ann margerine
it was wheni met my dutchess that i first had good best butter
and never looked back and you would never catch meeating maggie again
its like axle grease
have a nice day everybody the sun is shinning so make hay
whilst the sunis shinning best wishes astonian..........
yes will i had the same antics as you when making sandwiches
when my mother was,nt looking i would lean onto the table and help myself
to aspoon of sugar and springle it onmy bread , [nice and sweet yumi ]
we only had the margerine every day whilst most people had butter
except on a sunday when i had to go to mr parkes the grocers on lichfield rd
which was at the bottom of our terrace [cromwell terrace ] and two doors from matty,s radio and tv shop on saturday to get the old mans best butter
for his sunday tea ,this butter was the old butter patter on grease proof paper [ i used to like old parkie patting the butter before weighing it
and putting the money in a wire cash carry holder zooming across the shop floor and zooming back with the change
when i was born i was brought up on what you call bread and sopp
dried bread and water mixed togetherin my early infant days
then i was progressed to bread and dripping ,
then i got the maggie ann margerine
we was so poorin those days ,by the time i reached 7 or eight years old
i got lucky we was taken down to grandfathers fish and chip shop
and eat in the shop on late friday night after the tea time rush of customers at the aston cross shop of ernie jelfs chippie
but when i look back nowand remember why did my mother end up with a no hoper with my father,he always worked but there was never any money in her purse always in his he worked at charles harriss bakelite molders
on lodge road at the flat hockley
but the story goes and what i have leart from a high ranking relative
he met her in the pally club at bordesly and leart of the wealth of the family
and tryed to mussle in on them he moved in with them at newcannal street
but they seen through him and gave him a rejection
they tookhim to court to warn him off but it didn,t work
he enticed her to run off to aston and that was her down fall
lost her carrer , and brought to poverty, we did,nt have to stave
but the jelfs disowned her at aston cross in park lane there was a haven
full of grocery provisons two storie high ware hous at the back of park lane
food of all discriptions irecall going inthere oneday and my father and motherasking herfather for food and help, but he declined
and had a go at my father for not providingforhis daughter
he hated my father andhe never spoke to her in forty years until the months of his death when sad lonely and homeless
she took him in
so i can recite about thepoor days of maggie ann margerine
it was wheni met my dutchess that i first had good best butter
and never looked back and you would never catch meeating maggie again
its like axle grease
have a nice day everybody the sun is shinning so make hay
whilst the sunis shinning best wishes astonian..........
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maggie
Guest
Astonia
What a sad story, both your father and grandfather are to be pitied, your father for being weak, and your grandfather for being bitter for so long.Your mother must have been a remarkable lady
maggie
What a sad story, both your father and grandfather are to be pitied, your father for being weak, and your grandfather for being bitter for so long.Your mother must have been a remarkable lady
maggie
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Beryl M
Guest
What a sad sad story Astonian..... I think you have come along way since then inasmuch you have learnt to appreciate life more than most... Take care Beryl
good morning beryl
it sure was a sad thing that happened to my mother ,
she sure made a mistake in chosing the man in her life
my father it appears to have been a gold digger
whom wanted to marry into the high society of life with wealth
but they seen through him they had him movein with them at newcannal street
then they got a court order on himto get rid ofhim out of her lfe
but it did,t work
ernie jelf used to have ansells brewery deliver barells of beer ,every weekat
new cannal street for the social functions and with top brassfromthe city police force when they discoverd he [my father had a drink problem]
so they got rid of him so he hadto go so she left withhim
and thats when her father turned his back on her from 1953 till1970
when he was on his last leg of life he tracked her down
to 47 victoria rd aston ,she took him in where he final died
telling her she had been provided by him in his will
and the bussinessat 235 -237 park lane was left to her ,
only to find out it was complete lies
he left it to his sister ivy jelf , whom he never spoke to infifty years
after hisfather died in 1935
becos she got his bussiness and the main grocry provisions ware house at tyburn rd along with the coffee shop
all the food came from there land in bretonford and honeybourne and eversham which they werefarming
i asked raymond jelf the councillor up in oxford whomhis her cousin
as to why theylet her suffer ,he said they was,nt aware ofwhat wasgoing on but why did they let her struggle she was the only child to ernest jelf
anf bertha victoria hinto n [her mother ]
there was enough foodto feed an army at the tyburn rd ware house
and the park lane two storie ware house
she made a mistake acostly mistake ,when she was young
and at home in new cannal street and in her carrer
a mr patterson of paterson and hughes asked her to marry him
that being the senior mr patterson ,of patterson and hughes catuering company of digbeth b,ham whom are still in bussiness today
they was in bordesly street i believe in those days
and i sure appreciate life my self and do not take things for granted
have a nice day beryl best wishes astonian ;;;;
it sure was a sad thing that happened to my mother ,
she sure made a mistake in chosing the man in her life
my father it appears to have been a gold digger
whom wanted to marry into the high society of life with wealth
but they seen through him they had him movein with them at newcannal street
then they got a court order on himto get rid ofhim out of her lfe
but it did,t work
ernie jelf used to have ansells brewery deliver barells of beer ,every weekat
new cannal street for the social functions and with top brassfromthe city police force when they discoverd he [my father had a drink problem]
so they got rid of him so he hadto go so she left withhim
and thats when her father turned his back on her from 1953 till1970
when he was on his last leg of life he tracked her down
to 47 victoria rd aston ,she took him in where he final died
telling her she had been provided by him in his will
and the bussinessat 235 -237 park lane was left to her ,
only to find out it was complete lies
he left it to his sister ivy jelf , whom he never spoke to infifty years
after hisfather died in 1935
becos she got his bussiness and the main grocry provisions ware house at tyburn rd along with the coffee shop
all the food came from there land in bretonford and honeybourne and eversham which they werefarming
i asked raymond jelf the councillor up in oxford whomhis her cousin
as to why theylet her suffer ,he said they was,nt aware ofwhat wasgoing on but why did they let her struggle she was the only child to ernest jelf
anf bertha victoria hinto n [her mother ]
there was enough foodto feed an army at the tyburn rd ware house
and the park lane two storie ware house
she made a mistake acostly mistake ,when she was young
and at home in new cannal street and in her carrer
a mr patterson of paterson and hughes asked her to marry him
that being the senior mr patterson ,of patterson and hughes catuering company of digbeth b,ham whom are still in bussiness today
they was in bordesly street i believe in those days
and i sure appreciate life my self and do not take things for granted
have a nice day beryl best wishes astonian ;;;;
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maggie
Guest
I have just read your posting of yesterday Astonia, with such a remarkable famiky history you should write a book, thank you very much for sharing it with us.
maggie
maggie