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Lincolnshire poacher said:
Picture 609, Station Roadi 1914, just round the corner to the left was Gibournes hardware store.
Does anyone remember Don who ran it? Wonder if he is still around.?
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There are some posts on page 1 of a previous thread "Station Road Erdington" from Morturn (post #4) and Alberta (post #20) that refer to Gibournes LP.
 
One for Lady P…

Cottons Farm House, Bell Lane, Erdington. Creator: Sir John Benjamin Stone.
Cottons Farm House, Bell Lane, Erdington. Corner of Blythe on Bride Lane. 1893.
Formerly occupied by G. Holden in old time 1818 by Greensall.
(Birmingham Archives and Collections)

Bell Lane is the old name of today’s Orphanage Road in Erdington (renamed after Sir Josiah Mason built his large orphanage there in the 1860s).

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Very interesting picture Pedro, thank you. I think this used to be the pub on the corner of Bell Lane and Chester Road called The Bell. The Building is still there, now a care home. It was once a ballet school which my daughter attended.

The writing in the bottom left hand corner mentions the name Greensill, a name which often crops up in this area. I've got an idea that one of the daughters of the Cotterell family from Broadfields House married a Greensill. I'm still looking for a picture of Broadfields House, so far with no success!
 
Vivienne14 said:
The first Erdington tram in 1907. They all look like dignitaries in this photo. Viv.

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Hi Again Viv,

This photo was taken at the tram terminus outside Broadfields House. I have lots of photos of the area but none of the house even though the wall is sometimes visible. It was also the bus terminus. Most frustrating! The usual view of this event is the other side of the tram.

ErdingtonBroadfields.jpgSuttonRdTramBusTerminus.jpgPenny
 
Two threads have been merged into this one, in the process some posts were moved to other related thread (please see the list of linked threads at the beginning of post #1).
 
Alan remarked that the horse may have been taking a drink, and it looks like there is some water in the picture. I could not remember any water in that area, but the 1880s map shows a pool to the north of Chester Road at that time.
 
Lady Penelope said:
Very interesting picture Pedro, thank you. I think this used to be the pub on the corner of Bell Lane and Chester Road called The Bell. The Building is still there, now a care home. It was once a ballet school which my daughter attended.

The writing in the bottom left hand corner mentions the name Greensill, a name which often crops up in this area. I've got an idea that one of the daughters of the Cotterell family from Broadfields House married a Greensill. I'm still looking for a picture of Broadfields House, so far with no success!
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No Lady P. As Pedro said, this farmhouse stood at the corner of Bell Lane and what is now Holly Lane opposite what is now the Presbyterian Church. The building on the corner of Chester Road was named 'Hollywood' and amongst others it was once owned by the surveyor John Fowler. I don't think that it was ever a pub.

PS edit: At the time that the photo was taken the OS map names the building as 'Malthouse Farm'.
 
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Thanks for that Moor End Lad. Good to get it right! However, the building on the corner of Bell Lane and Chester Road, known as Hollywood, was in fact the Bell a very long time ago. I'll post the map showing this when I find it! I don't know when it closed and the name transferred to The Bell & Cuckoo/The Bell at Cuckoo's Corner. I really need to go to Warwick Record Office to look at the licensing records but haven't been able to as yet.
 
Here's the 1833 Turnpike Map, which shows the Bell & Cuckoo on Sutton Road:

Erdington Turnpike map 1833 #2.jpg

On the corner of Bell Lane we can see two buildings similar to those on the 1804 Enclosure Map, which names the eastern building as the 'Old Bell'. I suggest that the westmost building is 'Hollywood'. Here is the 1760 Map for comparison:

Erdington map 1760.jpg

Here is a summary of the info that I have on Hollywood, which does not mention the Bell:

HOLLYWOOD
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Date/Source
Info

c1950 Old Buildings of Erdington
House numbered 791 Chester Road

1947 Old Buildings of Erdington
Rented to JH Harwood

1920 Old Buildings of Erdington
Occupied by John Antrobus

1910 Old Buildings of Erdington
Occupied by John Antrobus

1907 Kelly's Directory
'Hollywood' occupied by Ernest Yates

1904 Old Buildings of Erdington
Occupied by William J Sutton

1891 Census
Unoccupied ?

1881 Census
'Berwood' (more likely 'Hollywood') Chester Road household:
Name Relation Status Age Birthplace Occupation
William LOVETH Father WM 71 Sutton, Warwick Retired gardener
William LOVETH Head MM 34 Erdington, Warwick General foreign merchant
Elizabeth LOVETH Wife MF 30 Birmingham, Warwick
Elizabeth LOVETH Daughter SF 9 Erdington, Warwick Scholar
William LOVETH Son SM 8 Erdington, Warwick
Phoebe M LOVETH Daughter SF 5 Erdington, Warwick
John M LOVETH Son SM 3 Erdington, Warwick
Elizabeth MCLUES Servant UF 26 Wolverhampton, Staffs Cook
Mary LEE Servant UF 26 Birmingham, Warwick Nurse
Emma CRISP Servant UF 22 Birmingham, Warwick Housemaid

1872 Will
Will of Mary Fowler, widow of John Fowler dated 23 October 1872

1858 Proposed Route of Railway
Villa residence owned by Mary Fowler

1848 Tithe Map
No change from Fowler's 1833 Enclosure Map

1841 Census
? Chester Road household:
Name Relation Status Age Birthplace Occupation
John FOWLER M 35 Warwicks Independent
Mary FOWLER F 45 Warwicks
William FOWLER M 10 Warwicks
Elizabeth PARKES F 50 Warwicks Independent
Amelia LUCAS F 20 Warwicks Servant
Sarah SHEPHERD F 18 Warwicks Servant

1834 OS Map
Buildings and adjoining fields are identifiable in the first ordnance survey

1833 Fowler Enclosure Map
Estate comprising house & garden, 'Lower Field' and 'Upper Field' and
'Hollyhurst Piece' on the other side of Chester Road (site of Yenton School) owned and occupied by John Fowler.
Cottage and garden occupied by Joseph Fellowes

1817 Mary Ashford Murder Investigation
House occupied by Freeman.
Cottage and garden facing onto Bell Lane (later Orphanage Road) occupied
by Mary Ashford's grandfather Coleman

1760 Old Buildings of Erdington
Occupied by Edward Clemson ?

1760 Tomlinson Map
House, garden and croft in corner of Bell Lane and Chester Road known as
'Hollywood' owned by Mr Hannen and occupied by John Dingley.
Strip of land bordering Chester Road is common land
 
Very good to see the Erdington maps in #648. Thanks for those. Only ever seen low resolutions of these. I note that the tollgate was close to the Green. At the time was this the Sutton Turnpike Road (ie was the road up to its entering Erdington at the Green known as Sutton Road ? Currently it's a short section of High Street reaching up to the junction with Station Road).
 
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