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Courtyards and yards of brum
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Frothblower
Lubrication In Moderation
And people say the good old days
Bob Davis
Bob Davis
An interesting point on this map is the tramway in Miller Street not only going into the actual depot, but the little loop into the corporation yard. Why?, what? What tram routes were in Newtown Row? The canal is only identifiable by reference to wharfs along its bans, including Corporation Wharf, but the tramways are heavily and clearly marked. Also what information there is on the map, houses clearly marked various works etc identified, street names clear and legible but where is the entrance to the inner basin and are those steps going up into Brewery Street? However that is enough to tax your brains for today.
Bob
Radiorails
master brummie
The corporation yard became an overhead maintenance depot in 1908 when Miller Street was first opened as far as I can see.
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Pedrocut
Master Barmmie
Radiorails
master brummie
Moseley Road depot opened January 1907 and Kyotts Lake Road was taken over by the BCT from the CBT at the same time.
..........but we are now steaming into thread drift.
..........but we are now steaming into thread drift.
Bob Davis
Bob Davis
but with a beautiful metaphor for a Friday pmMoseley Road depot opened January 1907 and Kyotts Lake Road was taken over by the BCT from the CBT at the same time.
..........but we are now steaming into thread drift.
bob
Pedrocut
Master Barmmie
In November 1901 a 4 year old girl was knocked down and killed by a horse in Blews Street while on her way home from school. RIP
Eric Gibson
master brummie
Maurice, I've just been looking at the 1939 register and I find that not only was my grandparents living at 5/15 Barton's Bank but my father's sister and her husband and children, James and Ada Biddle, Victor and Vera, were living at number 17
Williamstreeter
master brummie
Eric if this Batons Bank is the one in Aston , it ran up the side of the block of houses I lived in from 1976-96
sospiri
GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN
Williamstreeter,
If we are talking about the Bartons Bank which ran through to Rifle Crescent, it was redeveloped in the mid-1960s. Three tower blocks now stand on the site. I was born in my grandmother's house at 2/15 and knew the Gibsons at 5/15 well and vice versa. What address were you living at from 1976-1996?
Maurice
If we are talking about the Bartons Bank which ran through to Rifle Crescent, it was redeveloped in the mid-1960s. Three tower blocks now stand on the site. I was born in my grandmother's house at 2/15 and knew the Gibsons at 5/15 well and vice versa. What address were you living at from 1976-1996?
Maurice
Eric Gibson
master brummie
You must have know my cousins Maurice, Victor and Vera Biddle, Victor joined the navy and served through the war, then on his return went back to and later took over Sander's chemists in Potter's Hill. He and Vera are both gone now, Vera sadly had MS and suffered a long time before she died.
I didn't realise they were in Barton's Bank in 39, I only remember them being in Victoria Road.
I didn't realise they were in Barton's Bank in 39, I only remember them being in Victoria Road.
Williamstreeter
master brummie
24 Selston rd just off Park Lane one end , Victoria Rd the other . Good old days , I don't think I could live there now
sospiri
GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN
Eric,
I was two years old in 1939 and by early 1941 we had moved to Sparkhill. So memories at that point were very slim. As I grew up, I continued to visit my grandmother, Louisa Longmore and her youngest son, Albert, until 1960 and by January 1961, I had moved south to Dorset. I can't remember the name Biddle and never had occasion to visit the Potter's Hill chemist.
When I'd reached an age when I took more interest in the people around me, my grandmother spent more time talking to my mother and her other frequent visitor, Gal (Garibaldi) Sedgwick, her cousin. I was out in the garden shed, which Uncle Albert had turned into a workshop. On one occasion, I bought by mail order a kit to build an electric motor from the dreaded William Penn Limited, which, of course, didn't work - everything they sold was rubbish. So using an old loudspeaker magnet, Uncle Albert showed me how to build a motor that did work.
The only real event from the early WW2 years that I did remember was going down into my grandmother's cellar when the air raid siren went. By then Uncle Albert was in the Military Police and spent the later WW2 years in Belgium & Germany, mainly directing traffic around bombed out towns! I have a photograph of him somewhere in uniform and will post it when I have a bit more get up and go!
Maurice
I was two years old in 1939 and by early 1941 we had moved to Sparkhill. So memories at that point were very slim. As I grew up, I continued to visit my grandmother, Louisa Longmore and her youngest son, Albert, until 1960 and by January 1961, I had moved south to Dorset. I can't remember the name Biddle and never had occasion to visit the Potter's Hill chemist.
When I'd reached an age when I took more interest in the people around me, my grandmother spent more time talking to my mother and her other frequent visitor, Gal (Garibaldi) Sedgwick, her cousin. I was out in the garden shed, which Uncle Albert had turned into a workshop. On one occasion, I bought by mail order a kit to build an electric motor from the dreaded William Penn Limited, which, of course, didn't work - everything they sold was rubbish. So using an old loudspeaker magnet, Uncle Albert showed me how to build a motor that did work.
The only real event from the early WW2 years that I did remember was going down into my grandmother's cellar when the air raid siren went. By then Uncle Albert was in the Military Police and spent the later WW2 years in Belgium & Germany, mainly directing traffic around bombed out towns! I have a photograph of him somewhere in uniform and will post it when I have a bit more get up and go!
Maurice
Hi, My family, the Carleys lived in Chequers Walk around 1919. Great Grandma Carley had a 'shop', but I imagine it was a front room filled with produce to sell. My Grandma and Mum lived there in the 1920s too. They seemed to work for Jones and Barclay, which was round the corner.
mw0njm.
A Brummie Dude
we lived in terrable conditions uptill 1970. then had a propper house. with bath room.
i moved in to my cottage in 1999 in wales.it had no bathroom or loo inside they were in a shed out side. i built a bathroom in side. the old systern was up on the wall with a long pipe to the pan.one winter it froze i pulled the chain so hard and the cystern come off the wall. i laught'd and thought been here before in brum.when i had to go up a yard to the loo.and that happend.
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Williamstreeter
master brummie
Maggiemur and Shortie There is a pic of Chequers Walk way back in 2012 , which in my opinion doesn't do it justice. It started just over the crest of the hill in Granville St it ran up behind an electrical wholesaler(A Berkeley} next to that a garage I cant remember the next building next to the garage but after that there was the Salvation Army Mens sheltered accommodation next to that was St Thomas's school then I'm sure there was a couple of houses then came Bath Row , I would guess give or take the odd inch it was about 500/600 yards long if not longer . I lived down the road in William St 1955-69 I walked up and down there regularly
oldMohawk
gone but not forgotten
The backs of 32 - 33, Cliveland Street. That box above the window is in an awkward place perhaps there was access through the wall from the attic.
The fronts of 30 - 33, Cliveland Street. Using long exposure the cameraman asked the children to stand very still but it looks like they did not.
The fronts of 30 - 33, Cliveland Street. Using long exposure the cameraman asked the children to stand very still but it looks like they did not.
Pedrocut
Master Barmmie
Jan 1876, Georges Cardoe, prosecuted for allowing nuisances to exist on premises owned. 30-33 Cliveland Street.
mw0njm.
A Brummie Dude
i like to see which houses have been added on,and patched by different brick work. there has beena lot of foot traffic on that step
My grandmother was married at St Marys Church Aston Brook and this photo has helped me with the sort of clothes and the times. She married in 1919 Leah Clayton to Harry Jones. Thank you for the photos wonderful
oldMohawk
gone but not forgotten
Although there is already a pic of Camden Grove in another thread here are two with constrast and sharpness improved. They show No 7 Court, Camden Grove as the inhabitants look at the photographer maybe wondering why he would take a photo of their court. The second photo shows the view they saw when they looked out of their doors.
Pedrocut
Master Barmmie
Pedrocut
Master Barmmie
The Shoothill Birmingham Library site seems to have its fair share of mistakes, and is this another one? The two pictures placed by old Mohawk of Number 7 Court, Camden Drive do fit well with the "court" that leads in to Legge St. If you count the "courts" from Camden Drive it could be said to be Court 7, but four of the other six have names and not numbers.
The 1881 census for Camden Grove gives housing numbers 1 to 43, suggesting that the numbering goes in and out of the “courts”? There are many mentions of Camden Drive in the Press but none that I can find with a Court number.
The 1881 census for Camden Grove gives housing numbers 1 to 43, suggesting that the numbering goes in and out of the “courts”? There are many mentions of Camden Drive in the Press but none that I can find with a Court number.
oldMohawk
gone but not forgotten
As often in these old courtyard images the photographer chalked the address on a wall or door etc, and '7 crt Camden Grove' can be seen chalked on a wall in the second pic in post#963. With their 'Deep Zoom' method, Shoothill obviously had no connection with the old photographer so probably just used the chalked address. The view through the gap at the end of the court showing a street and high buildings does not seem to fit with the map so I'm still looking.
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