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Clifton Road Aston

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Clifton St - Chinn family

Hi everyone,
Lots of good memories and memory joggers from you all.

Evening Bill, just read your post and wondered if you were related to Cathy or Kathy Chinn ? My mom is from same area and she recently gave me list of names she played with at school or in street and I recognised Kathy as one of them when I saw your surname...
 
Clifton Road

Hi Judy,
Yes I do remember the Terrace and have seen it marked as Gothic Terrace on a map dated around 1900/4, I also have a pal who remembers several families from the Terrace and went to school with some of them[Upper Thomas Street]. Sadly I personally have no memory of any of the neighbours of my Grandfathers other than our family and the local area.

Hi Objd,
You mention Clifton Street so not sure whether you are in the right place but I certainly have no knowledge of a Kathy Chinn in our family, although I do, or did, know a Kathy Chinn who lives in the Coventry area.

Bill.
 
Hi Bill

When I found out my family connection to Clifton Road some years ago I went to try and find out more about the area but there was hardly anything left, it was all under Aston Expressway. It was so sad, if I had known when I was younger and lived in Birmingham I could have seen where my family lived. If only I had been interested in my family history earlier:(

Judy
 
Clifton Road

Hi Judy,
Yes it's sad my Grandfather was moved, compusory purchase[against the wishes of a great many of the residents], and was re-housed in Chelmsley Wood. Sadly a whole relatively close community split apart and not at all for the better except maybe for the property developers! But then that would start me off on another of my rants regarding the decimation of the City Centre the developers who did even more damage than the Luftwaffe!! And the main culprit was knighted for his efforts too!!!

Bill.
 
Hi Linda

I was born in 1953 and lived at no 12 Clifton Rd until our house was compulsory purchased by the council to make way for the Aston Expressway in 1971.

I don't have any photos but I do have memories.

My grandmother Dolly Mellon kept the outdoor at no
100 Clifton Road- next door to Jacksons Fish and Chip Shop.

Opposite was Elsies grocery shop and next door to that was a shop I always referred to as being owned by "Mrs Mac."

In or around the 1920's my great grandmother Elizabeth Harper and her husband John - kept the Golden Lion public house on the corner of Clifton Road and Upper Thomas Street.

My mother is still alive so if there is anything you want to ask please feel free and I will see if she remembers.

Best wishes

Fay
Hi
My name is Gary Hagan (was Astley)
We lived at 2/106 clifton rd from 1957 - 1969 eventualy there were 11 of us in the little back house i remember all of the above as the fish shop & the outdoor were the next entry to ours, the bottom of our yard stood out because there was a great tree at the road end,i used to run errands for the shops Elsie(Cook) & Mrs macs and my dad Frank drank and played darts for the red lion
 
Hi all
Love reading all your replys about Clifton Road in a early message i said my Uncle Jims (James Hunt)shop was on Clifton Road where it was actually on the corner of Clifton road and Upper Sutton Street,i also went and had a look a few years back and there was nothing left,found out that in 1912 my Hunt family were living at 158 clifton road as well as 154 in later years,my poor grandad fell down the stairs at 154 and died in 1942 his death down as accidental death on his death certificate.The family lived ther until 1969 when we moved to Quinton to make way for the Aston Express way.So i don't remember anything about Aston except what my dad tells me now.
Thanks for all your memories it gives me something to tell my dad and he lets me know if he remembers the names mentioned.
Thanks again
Linda
 
I Had 2 Auntys And Uncles In Clifton Road. Roddy And Violet Preston And Tommy And Lily Preston.they Lived In A Terace On Bottom Section Of Road Near Upper Thomas Street. Unfortunatly All Are Dead,with Lily Preston Dying A Couple Of Months Ago. Uncle Roddy Used To Drink In A Pub Which I Think Was Called The Eagle On The Corner Of Sutton Street. My Aunt Lily Used To Work In Sutton Street At A Place Called Phillips And Crosses Who Used To Manufacture Funeral Goods, Like Brass Coffin Handles And Crucifix. My Mother Jesseie Morris Worked There Also. My Mother Lived In Gothic Terrace At No 16 in Clifton Rd With My Father Reg, My Sister Violet,myself Reg And My Brother Billy. I Was Six When I Left Terrace,so Its Nearly Sixty Years Now.
 
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Hello All, It's been quite a while since I've been on the site and I've really enjoyed reading many of the posted memories.

My Grandfather, John Robinson Webb, grew up at 52 Clifton Road and attended Upper Thomas Street School. He was born in 1910- the illegimate son of John Webb and Elizabeth Robinson (nee Sutton- her father ran the Nottingham Arms on the corner of Bristol Street and Bristol Passage in 1901)). Elizabeth died at 52 Clifton Road in 1916.
John soon found another partner- Alice Davis (nee Meaking), she was referred to as the housekeeper! However, this proved to be more than a professional relationship and in 1926 John and Alice had a daughter, Rose Webb Davis, later followed by two sons Arthur Webb Davis (1927) and Norman Webb Daivis (1931). Alice and her children all unofficially took on the Webb name.
John Webb died in 1945, but I know that Alice and their sons continued to live at 52 Clifton Road (listed under Webb in the electoral registers) until the late 1950s. Their daughter Rose left earlier in 1951 after marrying Charles Pedley.
The last time I posted a message regarding my family a lovely woman, called Doreen, recalled Alice and her sons- she wrote "I remember they both had very dark thick hair. Mrs Webb [Alice Davis] was quite a big woman, not fat, just quite tall and big. The houses they lived in were quite strange... although they were on to the street they only had the facilities of a back to back- Just one room, then one on top of that, and an attic on top of that. The back part of the house was lived in by some-one else and reached via an entry.'
Another family member, Walter Blower, who lived for a short time at 54 Clifton Road wrote to me saying he remembered the boys being called '...Arthur and Pongo. There was also a Fred Davis [Now known to be Alice's son from her marriage to Amos Davis], but no-one said who he was as he'd spent time in prison'
From the information that Doreen gave me I now know that Norman Webb (Davis) lived rough for many years around the Aston area, and died (of no fixed abode) in Birmingham 1995.
Whilst I wanted to share the information that has been passed to me, I also wanted to thank Doreen for all her help- just the smallest snippets have helped to bring some of the characters in my tree alive. Many thanks Doreen :)

I would love to hear from anyone that thinks they may recall this family (good or bad!)
 
We kept the Bakers in Upper Sutton St (No 19) and Roy Crosbee lived a few doors below us. I can remember his dad coming home from the War in 1946. He had a sister too.
 
Does anyone out there have any pictures of Clifton Road? I'v love to see them. Going towards Potter Hill was general grocers, proprietors were Mr & Mrs Brown that would have been in the 50's anyone know what happened to them? House number 232

Pat

Only a photo that I've posted before of Clifton Road School, that I attended in the early 50's.

Graham.
 
Graham,can you tell me the school in cliffton rd where would that be as I have racked my grey cells but cannot recall it?.
 
To the Baron,

This is Clifton (Road) School in Balsall Heath, not Aston. There was no school in CR Aston, so your memory is OK. This school, at which I taught in the seventies is now part of the St Paul's Association. The new CS buildings are ust around the corner.
 
Thanks, for that, I thought it was anoth SENIOR MOMENT & the grey cell had go once more.
Now I know where we are it helps.
 
Would also welcome any photo's of Clifton Road Balsall Heath, also any tales pre war.

My GGparents had a boot makers and repair shop 161, (Thomas Johnstone).and lived at 130 (as did my Grandfather and Mother)

Thomas Johnstone was a big man with a leather apron and a sharp knife. He was called on to cut down any one who had hanged themselves in the vincity. Apparently a not unheaard of event.

(There is another thread on Clifton Road Balsall Heath on the forum)
 
RobertS

I can't find a thread dedicated to Clifton Rd Balsall Heath. If you want to start one I'll upload you some photo's.

Phil
 
Thanks PMC1947 for the offer of posted photo's.

My mistake. The Clifton Road post is in 'Balsall Heath' (I slotted in a residents list #126. Its as my mother remembered in the mid 1920's so well before most of the recent conversations.)

Will start one as suggested.
 
Hi Icarus

The Moss and Cashmores were my family in Clifton Road.

Louisa
Louisa, I lived in the same back yard as the Cashmores, we lived at # 10/32 I am sure they lived at #14/32 was it a Sammy Cashmore? I also recall 'old lady Moss' (excuse that description,we were kids then) but really cant remember her well. I do know she lived next door to the asian Ullha family, her backyard stretched down to our yard area, we would climb her steel fence boundry, she would give us hell 'and more'
hope this gets to ya.
Dave Nutt
 
Anyone who lived in Clifton Road from 1948 - 49? Did you know my great grandmother Dawkins who lived in number 9? Apparently this was oposite the cinema i think.

Thanks Sam
 
HI SAMW
Which CLIFTON Road Are You Refereing To , The One In Aston , Or Spark hill ,
Or Some-where Else I Myself Don,t Recall A Picture House In Clifton Rd Aston Going
Back To The Mid 40,S And Fifties , I Am Very Intrigue To Find Out ,
Best Wishes ASTONIAN ,;;;
 
Hi Astonian

I think it was is Balsall Heath. I am not sure if there was a cinema oposite its just something one of the guys on here said.

Thanks Sam
 
Hi samw
i thought you meant the one in balsall heath and not aston
yes there was a clifton picture house in balsall heath i do rememember that one from many years ago i only went there with my uncle once only
we did not like it there best wishes astonion .;;;;;;
 
Sam

I think this possibly will be the only chance you have of catching a glimpse of your g-grandmothers house. If you look to the right of this photo you will just see some houses on the edge of the photo.

One of these has a very great chance of being her house. they are in the right position.

Phil
 

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Hi Phil

they look like terraced houses from that photo.

If you dont mind I will send that photo to my great aunt and see if she remembers this.

Thanks Sam
 
Sam

If memory serves. they were all terraced houses in Clifton rd, You didn't get many semi's and detached houses in Balsall Heath until you reached the outskirts and touched on the posh areas like Moseley & Edgbaston.

Phil
 
It wasn't the worst by a long shot, it was actually quite nice compared to some places. It was only in the late 50's and 60's that it started to become run down.

Phil
 
Sam

I found a much better and later version of that photo. You can get a much better view of the houses.

Phil
 

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It wasn't the worst by a long shot, it was actually quite nice compared to some places. It was only in the late 50's and 60's that it started to become run down.

Phil

I will second that, when I lived there it was a lovely area.
 
HI PHIL
I HAVE GOT TO AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT ONE
Clifton rd started down hill and the road always looked as it,s never been swept
And tHAT WAS IN THE FIFTY,S BEST WISHES ASTONIAN ,;;;
 
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