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You beat me to it, Ragga, I was just trying to work out where it was. Birmingham buses always showed the outer terminus on the destination blind, so this one is heading to city despite what it says!
 
Peter Walker said:
And wasn't the bus in tip-top condition? Gleaming paintwork we don't see any more. I remember that in the late 1940s and early 1950s, Corporation Bus were repainted every 21/2 years. It's hard to imagine today how cheap manual labour was in those days.
Peter
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True Peter' a workmate and myself use to shunt them in and out of the Paint Shop with a Lansing Bagnal. :)
 
The 1937 Daimler 16a ran fom town through Handsworth on to Handsworth Wood where I used to catch it to go to Hamstead. I can't remember if it turned at the junction of Old Walsall Road and Hamstead Road or went down the lane past the pit and turned there.
 
In the layte 1940s Daimlers ran on the Inner Circle route No8 we went to my Aunts & Uncle with Mom& Dad to Saltley where the crew had to Clock and we would walk up to Edmund Road from there.
 
[ I can't remember if it turned at the junction of Old Walsall Road and Hamstead Road or went down the lane past the pit and turned there.[/quote]

I know in the late 50s/early 60s it turned at the Old Walsall Road/Hamstead Road Junction. Di. I used to catch the 16a to St Mary's Church in Handsworth, then walk down Churchill Road, Church Vale and into Putney Road when I was a kid. In the early 60s I caught the same bus to the Hamstead turn and walked up Old Walsall Road to Dyas Avenue, where I lived when I first got married. So that route holds a lot of memories for me.
 
ragga said:
Gosta Green...... Degsy , you can see the Sack of Potatos in the background.
I must say it a lovely photo which i have not seen before.
thank you for sharing it ..... ragga :)
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Hi ragga,

Many thanks for the info in relation to the photo of 2898 JOJ 898 on the 14 route which I'll now add in the caption on my fotopic gallery.
 
Degsy168 said:
Hi ragga,

Many thanks for the info in relation to the photo of 2898 JOJ 898 on the 14 route which I'll now add in the caption on my fotopic gallery.
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I've woken up now.... Found it.... I didn't tweek my screen to the right... to see the background!! Georgie
 
Thanks Charlie, I should have known because the 6 bus went past the pit to the bottom end of the village where I lived during the war.

(I was born in Old Walsall Road, just before the bridge on the right)
 
Hi everyone,

I found this picture very intriguing and wondered if anyone can identify where it was taken? The vehicle on the left is 2794 JOJ 794 from Liverpool Street garage working the 15 route from Yardley (Whittington Oval) to Hamstead as it passes 2679 JOJ 679 from Hockley garage on the 16 route to Handsworth Wood.

Many thanks.....
 
Im still racking my brains degsy :(
Im only guessing now but could it be
Stephenson street or Station Street or
could it be somewhere around Snow Hill
those diamond bus stop ... I think they
were for the night service buses so....
its in the city somewhere . ragga :)
PS
maybe there was a diversion at some point.
Livery Street ??
 
Diamond bus stops

The diamond bus stops were not actual bus stops. There was an "A" and a "B", it defined the area between them as a bus stop. Is the building in the background old Snow Hill Station?
 
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Having analysed the photo of 2794 and 2679 passing each other in more detail, I'm almost convinced that it is at the bottom of Snow Hill with the station in the background. Please feel free to challenge this if you think otherwise!
 
That's quite a teaser. From the route numbers the bus on the right is going from Yardley to Hamstead and the one on the left (obviously) going in the opposite direction. Checking other pictures, I think the building in the background is the side of Snow Hill Station. As I left Birmingham in 1959 I don't really remember the temporary arrangements while the Inner Ring Road was being built, although I would have been there briefly at thetime. I also don't remember the long bus stop with waiting shelters and the diamond markers in that location, though.
Peter
 
I'm not so sure it's Snow Hill Degsy, or at least the bottom of Snow Hill going towards Constitution Hill and the Summer Lane turn off. There is a turn in the road and I can't remember another road coming out onto Snow Hill until they built the street going past the Dental Hospital and around by Lloyd House.
On the left hand side going down Snow Hill from Colmore Row, Great Charles Street ran right on to Snow Hill. There was Yardley's the Musical Instrument shop and then the YWCA. The right hand street turned into Summer Lane.

I think the photo is on Livery Street with Snow Hill Station in the background.
Not sure what the turning street is though.
 
jennyann - I have recently acquired a hardback book called " GLORY DAYS" Birmingham City Transport by Malcolm Keeley and this book spread across the first two pages has a Birmingham City Transport network map and, it matches your description. It is Livery Street with the station on the right hand side as the vehicle on the left is travelling away from Colmore Row. Snow Hill itself is situated on the other side of the station which then continues onto Constitution Hill with Summer Lane on the right hand side between the two on a slight bend.

Many thanks for that.....
 
Degsy168 said:
Can anyone shed some light as to where this is on the No 14 route? The vehicle is 2898 JOJ 898, a Daimler CVG6 with a Crossley H30/25R body built in 1953 and was allocated to Barford Street garage until closure in 1955 after which it went to the newly-opened Lea Hall garage.
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hi this picture is outside aston university
 
Hockley Bus Garage

I see they have recently knocked down the bus garage at Hockley. I know it had been closed for quite a while but a shame to see it go all the same. I wonder what they are planning to build there
 
Degsy168 said:
jennyann - I have recently acquired a hardback book called " GLORY DAYS" Birmingham City Transport by Malcolm Keeley and this book spread across the first two pages has a Birmingham City Transport network map and, it matches your description. It is Livery Street with the station on the right hand side as the vehicle on the left is travelling away from Colmore Row. Snow Hill itself is situated on the other side of the station which then continues onto Constitution Hill with Summer Lane on the right hand side between the two on a slight bend.

Many thanks for that.....
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Degsy, I think you are right,bus on left turning out of colmore row into Livery Street with the Old Snow Hill Station on the right.

Steve C said:
I see they have recently knocked down the bus garage at Hockley. I know it had been closed for quite a while but a shame to see it go all the same. I wonder what they are planning to build there
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Steve, I worked the beat in that area and in the late 50s early 60s, I had
Whitmore Street dug up by the Public Works Dept. There was a hole in the
road the size of a sixpence piece (6am) By 7am it was the size of a half
crown. When dug up the was a crater about 20 feet long, six feet wide and about 5 feet deep. The buses coming out of the Garage had been driving over this hole on a crust of about 5 inches for months if not years.
Some of the drivers felt sick when they realised what they had been driving over. I wonder if any of those drivers are around now.?
 
When it comes to holes in the ground around the old Hockley garage, remember that before that it was an electric tram depot AND before that it was a cable tram depot and winding station. Two underground loops of cable came out of the depot into Whitmore Street and turned left to lead up to Hockley Hill. There the shorter loop turned to the right, and proceeded up to Colmore Row and back, while the other turned left and went up to the 'New Inns' at Handsworth. Those would have been big holes, I'm sure.
Peter
 
I certainly remember Henrys, the 33 stopped outside it too in Union street.
Henrys had a great Father chistmas grotto, my sis just emailed a photo of us with santa ,circa 1958.....That shop also had a great toy section. That year my prezzie came from Henrys....A Triang Bus which was, it seemed, as big as me! It had a pull-chord bell and thick rubber tyres..And it cost £3/7/6..WOW!. Buses inside Henrys and even more outside. Thanks for the reminder.
 
on the buses

hi daimlerman,
could,nt find a bus like you, had to ride
on but i thought you mite like this?
regards dereklcg.
 
A Triang Bus which was, it seemed, as big as me! It had a pull-chord bell and thick rubber tyres..And it cost £3/7/6..WOW!
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I doubt if it was the rare Birmingham version, though.
 
Di.Poppitt said:
Thanks Charlie, I should have known because the 6 bus went past the pit to the bottom end of the village where I lived during the war.

(I was born in Old Walsall Road, just before the bridge on the right)
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HI DI I DROVE THE WEST BROM BUSES,THE TERMINUS WAS AT THE TOP OF HAMSTEAD ROAD(GREENLANE)WE USED TO HAVE TO CLOCK OUR TIME ON THE BUNDY CLOCK,THE TIMES WERE 5TO THE HOUR AND 25 PAST THE HOUR,DO YOU REMEMBER YOU COULD GET A SHOPPERS RETURN TICKET BUT YOU HAD TO GET THE 3/25 BUS HOME TO HAMSTEAD,OTHERWISE YOU HAD TO PAY THE FULL FARE ON THE NEXT BUS,WHEN I WAS ON LATE NIGHTS ON THE HAMSTEAD ROUTE,MY FATHER WOULD MEET ME ON MY LAST JOURNEY,AT THE END OF 88 ROW ,WITH A BOTTLE OF TEA AND A SANDWICH,FOR THE CONDUCTOR AND MYSELF,WHICH WE USED EAT AT THE GREEN LANE TERMINUS THOSE WERE HAPPY DAYS. MY WIFE WAS BORN IN ROCKFORD ROAD IN1936,AND I WAS BORN IN ABERTILLERY SOUTH WALES IN 1933,WE CAME TO B/HAM IN 1946 ,AND COT A COLLIERY HOUSE IN 88 ROW IN 1947,FOR MY LAST 12 MONTHS AT SCHOOL,I TRAVELLED TO ADA ROAD SCHOOL SMALL HEATH I USED TO GET A SIXPENNY WORKMANS RETURN TICKET AND I USED THE 16A BUS,BYE FOR NOW
 
Hello Arthur, thanks for the memories. The No. 6 in the 40's stopped at the bottom of what we called Newlands, opposite the school. The houses beyond the school on the left were being built in the late 40's early 50's. So the bus's went further up the road to cater for the estate. :)
The 16A used to turn at the bottom of Old Walsall Road, does it do that still? It was a busy corner thinking about it, the 16A turniing under the huge buckets over head running on a pully from the brick works. All of Hamstead wlked underneaath those buckets, can you imagine that now!!!!!!!:rolleyes:
 
HELLO DI THE No16 BUS NOW TURNS AROUND AT GREEN LANE, AND THE 16A GOES TO THE SCOTT ARMS VIA GREEN LANE, THERE ARE ONLY ABOUT 6 NO 16A BUSES A DAY.I REMEMBER THE BUCKETS VERY WELL CROSSING THE ROAD,DO YOU REMEMBER THE PRISONER OF WAR CAMPS AT HAMSTEAD, I THINK ONE WAS FOR ITALIAN PRISONRES,AND THE OTHER FOR GERMANN PRISONERS OF WAR,ON CHRISTMAS MORNING THE PRISONERS USED TO GO TO ST PAULS CHURCH, I ALSO GOT MARRIED IN ST PAULS CHURCH ON BOXING DAY 1954. THEN I LIVED IN ROCKFORD ROAD WITH MY IN LAWS FOR 6 YEARS,SO HAMSTEAD HAS A LOT OF HAPPY MEMORIES FOR MYSELF AND MY WIFE OF 54 YEARS.BYE FOR NOW.
 
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