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Brougham Street, Lozells

I remember going out briefly with a young lady (who I'd met at Rabone Chesterman, late'66/early'67) and who lived in Brougham St. I *think*/unsure/ her name was Pat, Irish, if I remember correctly. Sadly, being young and innocent, (before the testosterone kicked in) I'd said something which was misinterpreted, she told her brother and as a result, I got the old heave-ho! C'est la vie. I do wonder about her when passing that area (ah! - young love).

Jan 2015 - Found an old diary.......she was Pat Kelly @ 19 Brougham St
Hi Curly, I think Pat is my aunty, her brother, my dad, was called Denis and my mum was Betty. My grandad owned the glassworks next door to us.
 
john not sure if you remember my friend as i think hes a bit younger than you but his name is maxwell bullivant...you may recall his parents better.. they lived at no 20 from about 1948 to 1965

click on the link below to take you to the nursery road thread where i have posted a few photos (including the 4 corners and the hardware shop corner of church st)...when i have time i will post a few more on there...its best to start reading from post 1 so that you do not miss any photos



all the best....lyn
Hi, I think we lived next door at no 19, Denis & Betty Kelly. Think we left about 1965.
 
Yes, same as mine. It could have been Father Dermot but I'm not sure.
My ex-wife went to the school at the bottom of Brougham Street.It was a catholic school run by nuns and she said they were all sadists and used to take it out on them for no reason at all!!BobS.
Hiya BobS:
I went to St Francis school from 1960 to 1966, your ex wife is right to a certain degree, I can remember severe punishments being handed out for what were trivial offences by a couple of the nuns, but some of them were really quite nice to us. The same cannot be said of two of the teachers at that time they were little short of sadists. If they were to do now what they they did to us then, they would certainly be sent to prison.
What years did your ex attend St Francis, maybe I knew her.
Cheers mate
Paul
 
Hiya BobS:
I went to St Francis school from 1960 to 1966, your ex wife is right to a certain degree, I can remember severe punishments being handed out for what were trivial offences by a couple of the nuns, but some of them were really quite nice to us. The same cannot be said of two of the teachers at that time they were little short of sadists. If they were to do now what they they did to us then, they would certainly be sent to prison.
What years did your ex attend St Francis, maybe I knew her.
Cheers mate
Paul
Ahhh Mr Woods lovely chap!
 
Hiya Lyn, Nice to see you also. Health issue have distracted me for the last few years, hopefully I can stick around a while now. I have an elderly cousin in her 90s who we lived next door to in Brougham Street back in the day (now living in Great Barr). She going to see if she can dig out any old pics of the street. Is Keith still here by any chance?
 
Hi, unfortunately I don't have any photos, just happy memories x
I remember those glass works so well. We kids were playing football in the street outside the works and I kicked the ball on to the roof. It didn't prove popular with the lads and I was elected, as the one who did it, to climb up and get it. Up I went up and chucked the ball down. I soon discovered though that I couldn't get down again. I lay on the roof and cried. I don't remember how I got down, clearly I did as I'm now here to tell the tail !!!
 
Hiya Lyn, Nice to see you also. Health issue have distracted me for the last few years, hopefully I can stick around a while now. I have an elderly cousin in her 90s who we lived next door to in Brougham Street back in the day (now living in Great Barr). She going to see if she can dig out any old pics of the street. Is Keith still here by any chance?
glad you are doing ok now dave...that would be great if your cousin could turn up any old photos of brougham st as photos make such a difference...yes keith is still around and is still a member of the forum

lyn
 
I've searched high and low for Brougham st pics with no luck at all. It's a shame as well that there's no point in going pack there to reminisce as there's literally nothing left of the old street except St Francis school. And I've no wish to visit there. The mere thought of it makes me shudder !!! I wonder Lyn, did you get a pic of the Vine pub in Villa Street? I remember that Tim Beale and his Brother Andy lived at number 60 Brougham Street, their back garden (yes some people did have them) backed right onto the Vine in Villa Street. One day Tim and me had been out collecting old bottles so we could take em back and get the 3d deposit on each of them. We new that the Vine was a bit of a soft touch so we l took a load back there. We waited in the off licence fo ages and were completely ignored. Tim, who was a bit of a bad lad, vaulted over the bar and swiped a bottle of rum and shouted run! We sat on a wall in Church street and downed the lot of it. Boy were we ill!!! Never never again!
 
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yes thanks david...found a photo of the vine many years ago now....its on the villa street thread...i still go down the old end from time to time as there is still enough left of the area in general to bring back happy memories

lyn
 
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Yes Lyn, last time I was up there there was a lot of the old Villa Street left. Sadly not so for Brougham Street though. Although that nice little park (I assume it's still nice!) makes such a difference doesn't it? I would come up to reminisce but I can't drive anymore. I lost my licence as I have glaucoma. I'm still in touch with Colin by-the-way. He and his Wife Angie had been coming down to Weston at least once a year but covid put paid to that. Maybe we should get into the habit again...
 
Hi

I seem to remember I went to school with a Laucen Bullivant. Not sure of the house number but the front door was in an entry on the right, to the left of the entry at the front was a shop run by, to us then, an eldery lady Mrs. Hands. Another thing that comes to mind is the Bullivans owned an old overweight Spaniel dog called Butch.

Brian
 
Hi

I seem to remember I went to school with a Laucen Bullivant. Not sure of the house number but the front door was in an entry on the right, to the left of the entry at the front was a shop run by, to us then, an eldery lady Mrs. Hands. Another thing that comes to mind is the Bullivans owned an old overweight Spaniel dog called Butch.

Brian
Hi Brian, I lived in Brougham Street up until 1968 when I left school. I remember Maxwell Bullivant and his sister Delia. I have no recollection of Laucen though. They lived exactly where you describe, I can't remember the house number either though.
David
 
Hi

I seem to remember I went to school with a Laucen Bullivant. Not sure of the house number but the front door was in an entry on the right, to the left of the entry at the front was a shop run by, to us then, an eldery lady Mrs. Hands. Another thing that comes to mind is the Bullivans owned an old overweight Spaniel dog called Butch.

Brian
Hello Brian, its nice to see my family being remembered on this forum, Im the younger Brother of LAWSON Bullivant, and you have bought back memories of that wonderful OLD dog called Butch, he lived to the grand old age of 15. We left Brougham St around 1965, i was born there in Feb 1951. Im still in touch with the wonderful Rose Leeder ,she is 92 now. The front of our house was a shop front, and next door was also a Drapers shop, it was owned by my God Mother Mrs Atkins , she was number 18 and we were number 20. Happy Happy days. Stay well Brian. Maxwell Bullivant
 
Hi Brian, I lived in Brougham Street up until 1968 when I left school. I remember Maxwell Bullivant and his sister Delia. I have no recollection of Laucen though. They lived exactly where you describe, I can't remember the house number either though.
David
Hi ya David, its Maxwell here, nice to see you back !!!. I never knew Timmy Beale was such a naughty lad LOL, his elder brother Jonathon was in touch with me recently, he was living in France. I went to see Rosie Leeder recently ,Timmy Beale regularly sent her Christmas cards. Stay well David, and I hope you can find those photos. PS LAWSON BULLIVANT was my older brother.
 
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hi

Rose Leeder we knew her as mickie leeder. It was her younger sister I knew. I was great friends with John Beal he lived next door but one from me, there was what we knew as an old lady living between us, Nellie Potter. I remember Tim Beal, over the road from his house was the pig bin, I wonder how many remember that, food recycling back in the 40s. We were standing by that and I has aquired a magnifying glass, we had Tim hold his hand out and I focused the sun onto the back of his hand, he didn't move his hand imediately just said hot hot, then his mother clipped my ear. we used to get the thin copper wire from Lucas's scrap bins in Great King Street. Tie it to a door knocker carefy run it across the road Loop it then backwards and forwads through several other door knockers, then knock one of them and run. When the people opened the door it knocked all the other doors in the loop. There would be several women in their pinnies, remeber those all the women wore a pinafore or house coat, at their gates looking up and down the road.

John and I were frequently banned from being together. There were a little group of us, Myself and Irene Butler, we were inseperable John Beal, Angela Wooton, Rose Leeders younger sister and another girl whose name escapes me. Oh the Haddleton Twins from Villa Street. Ann and Kay. Funny some names stick others find the leaks in your brain and are gone.

Brian
 
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