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Dionysius//88
master brummie
Mike have you got a map that shows where the Victoria Inn was situated please . I'd like to know where it was and what I missed ?
Dionysius//88
master brummie
Thank you very much Mike
move the blue dot to see that that part of rushton st where the pub was has now gone and taken up by road way
yes thats right sparks...when we look at the scottish maps we can see just how much change there has been over the years...no wonder i do not know the city anymore
lyn
Hi
It was most likely when they did the big roundabout and underpass where Broad St. meets the Hagley Road. I think it was known locally as five ways.
I recently did a Google Map fly through of the areas I grew up in or worked in and I didn't recognise anything. Last time I was there I came off the Bristol Road to cut across Smallbrook Ringway and finished up in New St railway station. The bit of road I wanted was a big hole.
I was also stopped for speeding in an area that used to be 40MPH in a Land Rover with a Hypodermic Needle sticking in the demister pipe. Good fun explaning to a copper that it was for injecting the sheep when they have scours after turning out onto fresh grass. The scours is the oposite to contipation was all I was prepared to tell him. when he couldn't pronounce the Name of the Village, said it looked like unchy munchy, and my MOT was written in Welsh, after a brief conversation on his radio conceded the paperwork would give him nightmares we were sent on our way with instructions to stick to 30 MPH..... if in doubt 30 in a 40 will atract less attension
Brian
It was most likely when they did the big roundabout and underpass where Broad St. meets the Hagley Road. I think it was known locally as five ways.
I recently did a Google Map fly through of the areas I grew up in or worked in and I didn't recognise anything. Last time I was there I came off the Bristol Road to cut across Smallbrook Ringway and finished up in New St railway station. The bit of road I wanted was a big hole.
I was also stopped for speeding in an area that used to be 40MPH in a Land Rover with a Hypodermic Needle sticking in the demister pipe. Good fun explaning to a copper that it was for injecting the sheep when they have scours after turning out onto fresh grass. The scours is the oposite to contipation was all I was prepared to tell him. when he couldn't pronounce the Name of the Village, said it looked like unchy munchy, and my MOT was written in Welsh, after a brief conversation on his radio conceded the paperwork would give him nightmares we were sent on our way with instructions to stick to 30 MPH..... if in doubt 30 in a 40 will atract less attension
Brian
Foremans Medals had that shop in the 70s
PS
Peter Ireland had a shop in here in Blackpool
he sadly passed away a few years back
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Time Traveller 66
master brummie
Sorry please don't call me too observant but this picture must be mid to late 1970s as the Ford bottom left as not built until the 1970s.
I kept going back to photo trying to work out date
Peter Foreman was in that shop 1972/3
Time Traveller 66
master brummie
It's a either a Ford Cortina or Granada Estate could be an R reg which would be 1976/77.
Jaffa
master brummie
I believe the photo in the original post to be from either 1981 or 1982... I have a similar photo showing the Antiques shop with displays of stock in the window and a Triumph Acclaim parked outside... Shown in the original photo the shop is empty and to the left of the vertical "Antiques" sign, it shows an entrance door and window covered in advertising flyers... In late 1982/early 1983 this door and window became the Duran Duran fan club offices... Production of the Acclaim started in 1981... So the date must be between 1981 and 1982
Hi Mike - My grandfather Fred Ragg was a Baker on Broad St. I'm trying to find out where the bakers shop might have been. The partnership with his brother was dissolved in 1925, and he died in the 1930s, so the bakery might have been gone before the Second World War. I've been looking through old photos on this site to see if the shop shows up but no joy yet - can anyone shed any light on this please?
That's amazing, thank you very much - I know so little about him and only discovered yesterday that his brother was called Ison.
Lloyd
master brummie
In the June 1921 census William Ison Ragg, aged 58 years 1 month, lived at 185 Lordswood Rd, Harborne, Birmingham, with wife Emma (nee Sheen, aged 53 years 10 nonths, married 1st q 1888); son William Gilbert Ragg (age 26 years 1 month); daughters Alice Maud Ragg (aged 18 years 1 month) and Florence Jessie Ragg (aged 13 years 8 months). They also had a 17 year 7 month old servant, Alice Hodgetts.
William's occupation was Baker & Confectioner at 104 Broad Street, an employer.
William Gilbert Ragg was an analytical Chemist with Chance & Hunt Ltd, Oldbury.
William's occupation was Baker & Confectioner at 104 Broad Street, an employer.
William Gilbert Ragg was an analytical Chemist with Chance & Hunt Ltd, Oldbury.
Thank you Lloyd - from his dates it looks like I drew the wrong conclusion from the bakery "partnership" - W.I. Ragg was probably my great grandfather and Frederick Sheen Ragg was his son. I also have Sheen as a middle name. I was told that Gillian Sheen, a GB olympic fencer, was of the same family - but now I know a lot more. The Lordswood Road connection is also interesting - will walk past when next in Brum.
MWS
from Bham
Gillian Shen was the grand daughter of Eleanor Sheen, who was an elder sister of Emma Ragg (nee Sheen).