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Bring back Kunzle showboats

Oh Lloyd, what memories you have brought back with the Kunzle's Showboats. I used to love those. I think Kunzles had a shop somewhere near Five Ways at the end of Broad Street in the 1950's.
 
Oh what fabby memories, I used to love Kunzle cakes........oooh, could just scoff one now actually!!
 
Can anyone help. As I've said before my dads cousins used to work at the Aston Cross branch and went on anual holidays to Switzerland with them. I wonder somewhere there must be photo's of their anual trip. TTFN. Jean.
 
Jan
cant help on kunzles trips i 'm afarid but i am trying to find out more about the family(not related to the showboats) and especilly ley hill house where they lived.
Do you have any information?
I have posted before but to no avail......
does anyone have any history on the house or photos?. i have heard that one of the kunzle children died in the grounds as a result of an accident...dont know if thats true.
 
Lloyd, Kunzle cakes were part of my innocence in the early 1960's. Maybe the temptation of them caused me to lose that innocence in other directions! If she were alive, my mother would be mortified to see what they led to!!

If you are seeking a petition to bring them back-count me in.
 
My daughter's partner told me the other day that his dad (who is disabled and was a small child when young -he was born very premature apparently) was taken by Mr Kunzle to Switzerland on holiday as a child. I'll try to find out more from him personally when I next see him.
 
Jan
cant help on kunzles trips i 'm afarid but i am trying to find out more about the family.
Do you have any information?
I have posted before but to no avail......

Found the following listed in Birmingham district:
John George Kunzle birth registered 4th quarter 1903 (ref 6d 138)
Edward Kunzle birth registered 4th quarter 1905 (ref 6d 42)
Margaret Kunzle, both birth and death registered 2nd quarter 1907 (refs 6d 143 and 6d 94)
 
lloyd interesting but i thought christian kunzle the founder, came to england and worked at the houses of parliament in the 1920's. Am i wrong in that thought?
 
lloyd thanks for this very interesting.
John George Kunzle birth registered 4th quarter 1903 (ref 6d 138)
Edward Kunzle birth registered 4th quarter 1905 (ref 6d 42)
Margaret Kunzle, both birth and death registered 2nd quarter 1907 (refs 6d 143 and 6d 94)
 
Just think out there somewhere in Birmingham must be someone who could make some Kunzle Cakes in their own kitchen!
 
I remember going down to Kunzle's and buying 6d worth of broken biscuits and cakes, this was late 60's in Garrets Green and you would get a big bag if you smiled at the lady
 
Great ad Mike....now I would love to have a Showboat cake or two. I read somewhere that there is no way at present that Showboats will be brought back as they are too labour intensive to produce and would cost too much.
I'll just have to live on the memories.
 
Look on the bright side jennyann, they were probably 1000 calories a bite so look how healthy we are without them - he said with tears of sorrow in his eyes.
 
Too true Mike. We never seemed to bothered about calories when Kunzle cakes were about. Whilst we are on the subject of cakes. Which bakery do people elect as their favourite or "the best one" for bread and cakes in Brum? Can be past or present.
Of course, I am remembering the long gone ones such as Baines. They had great sliced bread - Sunblest and I remember their cakes fondly...Cream Horns, Cream Buns, Custard Slices, Battenburg Loaves, Victoria Cream Sandwiches, Hovis Malt Bread. Maids of Honour, Pineapple Cream Tarts Chocolate Eclairs, Merangues, Jam Tarts, Doughnuts, Egg Custards, etc. They had a shop on Stockland Green and I used to pop in on the way to work on the 65 bus.

I missed all that kind of baking when I moved to Canada as the bakeries sold no real cream cakes whatsoever for years and years until a European baker came to Vancouver in the early l970's.

I would always make a beeline for Druckers when I came to Brum for a visit but of late I think their quality has diminished and the prices have
gone up. I am not too fond of Gregg's products really although their
baking looks good. Sometimes I would go into Rackhams Food Floor at the end of the day and buy their cakes with a considerable amount taken off the price.
 
Most people would probably opt for a butchers shop for their pork pies but we always got ours from Wimbushes, they were great.We still miss them. For bread we enjoyed the black top bloomers from Crustys on Pershore Road before it changed hands. Now we get decent bread local to us from Becketts at Wythall.
 
Do you remember in the 80's when there was a fashion for instant bakers on the high street. i ran one in erdington for 12mths. great fun. great bread we used to bake at the back of the shop. Then supermarkets started putting them in store and that was the end of decent bread for most people. They don't bake any more just warm up frozen dough.
 
If you like crusty black crust batches Sainsburys is the shop for them all their bakery products are good. Len.
 
I make my own bread and pizza dough but must admit I cheat. I do them in my breadmaker and the one grandaughter eats the bread without anything on. Does anyone remember the bread strike?. I made my dough put it in the airing cubourd to rise and forgot all about it. When I did eventually remember it had risen so much that was top heavy and went all over the ironing. Jean.
 
gg nothing wrong with a breadmaker. well done you. the old bakers would make their dough late at night. put a board over the top of the dough trough and go to sleep on it. when the dough rose it would tip the board, and baker, off onto the floor. he could then get started on his bakingas by that time it would be about 5am. so nothing new is there ,apart from trying to ironing sandwiches lol.
 
Used to work at Claremonts bakery at the top of Witton Road after school for a couple of hours. They had another shop at the bottom end too. The smell of freshly baked bread is better than any airfreshener. Think I said earlier in the thread that Julie and Ada Cole relatives of ours worked at Kunzles and we had the miss shaped cakes. Lucky me when I was a child can shut my eyes and still taste them. As I have become older I don't crave for sweet things including chocolate. Bye. Jean.
 
An interesting account from 5/26/2005 by Steve Guy. Len.
When Lyons bought Kunzles I was the Project Engineer given the job of buying a new chocolate moulding machine. At Garrets Green factory Kunzle had choc. moulding 2 machines both old-both Danish, an Aaasted and a Jenson. This factory was to be closed and everything moved to the other one in the group, which was in Smethwick- the old Scribona Fullers bakery. it must have been around 1973 I went to Denmark and Germany and eventually we bought a Bindler Mouding machine which was a huge rectangular loose mould machine, with nickel plated moulds for the 4 shapes. The whole project of installation in an air-conditioned area, -we build internal rooms and then the long conveyors where they were hand filled with Genoese sponge, butter cream and decorate. There were 10 ladies each side-a total of 40 girls alone . The total crew for the whole line must have been about 55, so it was incredibly labour intensive. The move to Smethwick must have cost around £150,000 and remember this was around 1973. The machinery was far from perfect. I recall the moulds tended to slip out of position in the coolers and cause smash-ups. Anyway the line ran and production was ok and they were packed in singles x 24 to a carton, in 4's and also in 6's - so there was a lot of cartoning and over-machinery as well which we moved. A few years later and Lyons decided to move all their 4 or 5 factories into one huge facility in Yorkshire. Naturally I got the job of sorting out the move. The product was stockpiled but the job could never be done quickly and I guess they were all sold and taken off the shelve for a few months. We built a new room to be air conditioned under the mezzanine, and dismantled and re-installed the Bindler moulder, and also moved the 15 ton chocolate tanks, all the jacketed piping and the other specialist chocolate machinery. When the shells were de-moulded the moulds were inverted so the shells, by then cooled so they shrunk, were hit with automatic nylon faced hammers. Noise regulations meant this noise had to be muted and I made an acoustic hood to place over this area, but the hood had to lifted regularly so we put a beam and electric hoist in the ceiling to do this, and then of course such lifting equipment has to have a safety certificate every year, so more admin cost! We still had the huge crew of girls filling the shells. We spent time considering how to automate the whole thing. Change the cake to rice crispies so they could be metered automatically, etc. We ended up with a huge new machine -on paper only- I can't remember what it would have cost to make but the Directors would never have authorised it. Chocolate prices were always rising. They did trials on a less expensive grade of chocolate, moving the cocoa solid % lower; maybe this lost sales and slowly the product died. Lyons killed it off long before RHM and Kipling came in the scene. I went to Australia for the firm in Sept 1977. By then the line was running. I think it only lasted there about 2 years. So I hope I have given you some facts about Showboats and there is no chance that the product will ever return. The economics just don't add up. I am now retired and live in N.W. London.​
 
Graham, I knew the post had been posted on April 28th, 2006 and on there is the same web site address i posted today, some new forum members seem not to know how to use the search option so i thought it would help them, i had seen your web address about Christian Kunzle before, and i hope new members will try the search option which is very useful. Len.
 
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