Nice to see you trespassing again Lyn, lol.
I would think the building's an office relating to the canal, but I've no idea why it's still standing if it's not Listed.
Love a good mystery me!
View attachment 89588pic 10...side of building from bridge st..holiday st to the left..
I can only make out the words "Private Property" on the yellow notice Lyn. I wonder if it was bought some time ago with a view to redevelopment?
Then the market collapsed.
I still think it's connected to the canal in some way; offices? workshop? repairing "things" (men are good at that). Maybe a call to Carl Chinn before we're all suffering from sleep deprivation!
Lyn,
You didn't try lifting that coal bunker lid then? Is doesn't appear to be locked. I'm sure our urban explorer friends would have been in their like a rat up a drainpipe!
Maurice
Finding this fascinating because my Gt and Gt Gt Grandparents were living in Holiday Street in 1871 but i can't seem to see much housing on the maps that have been posted unless i've overlooked them
No but ancestors were John Maney born 1835 Limerick and James Maney born 1861 Birmingham, just checked but i haven't got the number just Hoilday Street 1871.:emmersed:hi brumgum its a great thread isnt it and i dont know why but i had a thought that there may not have been many houses in holiday st..do you have the number where your rellies lived as mike maybe able to post you a map pinpointing the house..
lyn
Thank's for looking Maurice, i remember when i researched this some time ago many of the other houses in the street were not inhabited and it all sounded a little dire:emptiness::sorrow:Very faded original, but it looks to me like 3 House, 13 Court.
Maurice
Thank's, that makes sense because they also lived in Tennant Street at one point, strange i always imagined it to be the end that's being discussed.Brumgum
When you got up the other end of Holliday St by Granville St it was all back to back housing and back courts. In fact 13 Court was at the rear of the junction with Granville St on what I think was the east side of Holliday St
Having looked again and taken into account the newer information, may I hazard another guess? The maps & other views that we’ve seen from 1828 to 1847 show neither our building, the aqueduct nor Holliday Street. We’ve heard that the aqueduct was built in 1870 – may be some maps nearer this date would help confirm this. Then in later maps we have all the above three. Take a look at the attached 1902 map with our building marked in red. This is at the start of a road built across the aqueduct and ending near “Worcester Wharf” – also called Mr Smallwood’s Wharf on the 1839 map. So were the occupants of our building in charge of traffic going in and out of Worcester Wharf? This would help support the “Wharfinger” theory. Of course by the 1870s the railways would be bringing about the end of importance of the canals and Worcester Wharf was probably more related to the goods carried on the railway. By 1902 the Midland Railway had established a huge goods yard across the road on the land where the Mailbox now stands – see the map.
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Today that same road goes past our building, through a gate then across the aqueduct to two blocks of apartments Kings Court & Queens Court built between the roadway & the canal. Furthermore it’s called Bridge Street.
Well done Lyn with the photos and trespassing – keep up the good work & keep out of trouble!
Can I just expand on my “blind backs” theory? They may have still been building back-to-back houses in the early 1870s (Chamberlain banned them in 1876), but on that basis the outbuilding may have been a wash-house (brewhouse) & privies. This type of house could still have been built at this time.
The metal bands on the south west corner probably are holding the corner of the building together as the ground in that corner would have become unstable due to cutting Holiday Street to go under the canal. Is the metal pipe sticking out of the wall the vent pipe for a toilet soil pipe fitted inside the property at a later date? I’ll take a closer look soon.