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Black Patch

My grandparents. Lived on black patch. Her family was Bert Maryann Smith. My mother Kathleen Smith. My sister and I have traced. A lot family history. My mother in her 80s plus. And has a fantastic. Memory.
 
I am currently looking at a possible link in my family tree to the Gypsy's of the Black Patch.

I was wondering if anyone might know of a Gypsy from there called Billy Broadhead that was apparently quite well know in Horse Breading or Racing (not sure of the exact details)
 
I am currently looking at a possible link in my family tree to the Gypsy's of the Black Patch.

I was wondering if anyone might know of a Gypsy from there called Billy Broadhead that was apparently quite well know in Horse Breading or Racing (not sure of the exact details)
Hi. Your best bet would be to get in touch with Ted Rudge, who is an authority on Romany Gypsies and the Black Patch.
 
Does anyone who has researched their family tree with the Smiths of BlackPatch in found if one of John Smiths (Son of Easu and Sentenia) daughters happened to marry a Hall?
 
Hi all,

We are currently looking at our family tree. My great grandmother was called Eliza smith and I have been told she was related to gypsy royalty. I do not know her husband’s name but her son was called John Walter foster who married Alice Elizabeth Green. Eliza was said to be very young when she married and John Walter was born in 1912. I know it’s not much to go on but does anyone know of any additional information about Eliza.
 
Hi all,

We are currently looking at our family tree. My great grandmother was called Eliza smith and I have been told she was related to gypsy royalty. I do not know her husband’s name but her son was called John Walter foster who married Alice Elizabeth Green. Eliza was said to be very young when she married and John Walter was born in 1912. I know it’s not much to go on but does anyone know of any additional information about Eliza.
Best advice, is go to Ted Rudge; details are on here earlier. Ted is THE authority.
 
Gypsy, Roma and Traveller History Month – some digital resources including the Black Patch.

Interesting read. I know that Romanies never wanted to be classed with Travelers. Romany people, are people who do an honest days work usually grafting. Thank you for bringing the Black Patch back to the fore again.
 
Trivia. My Grandad Jack Hill, moved around the Midlands a lot with his vardo. I remember as a five or six year old, visiting my Nan & Grandad in a field way out at Chadwick End. We had milk from the churn, and eggs from his chickens. it was a in a meadow surrounded by wild flowers. Grandad, like a lot of Romany's made musical instruments, and he played a hand made One String Fiddle , and a jews harp. He would also play Bones..
 
Trivia. My Grandad Jack Hill, moved around the Midlands a lot with his vardo. I remember as a five or six year old, visiting my Nan & Grandad in a field way out at Chadwick End. We had milk from the churn, and eggs from his chickens. it was a in a meadow surrounded by wild flowers. Grandad, like a lot of Romany's made musical instruments, and he played a hand made One String Fiddle , and a jews harp. He would also play Bones..
Hi Gerry,

Am I right in thinking your Grandad lived in Tamworth?
 
Hi Gerry,

Am I right in thinking your Grandad lived in Tamworth?
Yes, he did. After they were moved on from Chadwick End, he built a wooden building, all by himself, with a tin roof, and polished lino flooring. It stood on a bank of grass in Glenavon Road, Kings Heath, and I would visit Nan & him there, traveling across Birmingham on the 50 bus. I remember it vividly. Sadly no one has any record of it, even the Kings Heath Library, which surprises me, as it was so unusual. Then they moved to Bolton Road or Street in the Digbeth area of Brum, and later across to a little semi in Tamworth. Grandad hated living in a house. Thanks.
 
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