Many thanks Bill. My information came from an outside source and I was hoping you would come back with more positive news so thanks again for that. I travelled on 433 back in October, did a few runs and thoroughly enjoyed it. The conductor did in fact refer to the brakes when we were chatting!! I had been on 862 on my previous visit so good to be able to sample both. Exploring the depot was most interesting too, cursed my luck that West Bromwich Daimler 174 was in the back corner so I couldn't get a proper photo but will catch up with it again. I met you briefly Bill (at least I think it was you!) at the Aston Manor AGM at Aldridge a few days later....
Thanks again
Your very welcome Simon, I wasn't at the AGM perhaps it was Ken Rhodes you were talking to, I'm not a member of Aston Manor, We did take 174 to an open day and I chatted to a few people then. This is one of the odd things about the internet its quite possible to rub shoulders with someone you regularly converse with via the 'net' and would not know them from Adam in reality!
This link should (fingers crossed) take you to some of my group photos.........Best wishes Bill
https://www.flickr.com/photos/48235702@N06/sets/72157625055925737/