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What type of bus is the second bus in the photograph showing two buses ?-curious looking vehicle..................Mal.
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Ex West Bromwich Daimler, painted in WMPTE colours, one that looked like this originally -
 
ragga said:
2 great shots of Stechford ......... Early to mid 70s maybe ??
ragga :)

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Hi Ragga,

This is the stop I used to get off at in the 1950s coming home from school. I lived in Frederick road so sometimes I would stay on the bus
and jump off on the corner of Victoria Road or in the little layby outside the old station entrance. I must have been mad!!

Kind regards

Dave
 
Here is a list of All Night Bus Services - taken from my 1963 B'ham Transport & Street Guide. Judy
 
After a Saturday night at the Tower I used to catch the No 9 bus to Quinton right to the terminus then about a 15 minute walk - my mum insisted my dad came to meet me as the walk was either through the park or down Spies Lane which was quite creepy in those days - and he did carrying my flat shoes so I could take off my heels - I think I could still recognise dad's footsteps even now - bless him.
He didn't drive in those days.
Sheri
 
nickcc101 said:
I used to catch the Weoly castle night service in the early sixties on my way home to Perry Barr. When it used to leave at 0130hr i was normally the only passenger, what a flyer though.
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That must have been the Weoley Castle Knight Service:D (Sorry, couldn't resist putting that in).
 
I saw an earlier reference to Leyland Tigers and have waded through some great posts on this thread did see a link? and this
Originally Posted by mw0njm
what happend to the single decker leyland tigers?.i remember them on the school runs
pete ....................and some replies to that thanks..............:) this link was posted earlier but I thought I would post it again for those who havent seen it recently as this mentions them https://www.skylineaviation.co.uk/buses/bham.html ....thanks to all it is a fascinating thread :)
 
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I'm an ex-HGV not PSV man myself, so would the specification Leyland Royal Tiger be the exact name? In connection with my work activity have come across photographs of what I think are the actual thing as export items.

Richie.
 
thanks for that Alf. I'll read all about them and see if they match up with any of the items that have come to my attention recently:)
 
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Lloyd said:
Ex West Bromwich Daimler, painted in WMPTE colours, one that looked like this originally -
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Hi Lloyd

A little thought has been niggling at me for some time, and I KNOW
you will have the answer .

The half cab Birmingham Daimler buses from the late 1940s came in two guises, - those in which the chrome top of the radiator came flush with the front of the cab, and those where it stood out further, and the gap was filled with a rubber flap. Now I was told that it was due to whether a Gardner or a Daimler engine was fitted, as one engine was longer than the other. Is this true, and if so, which was which?

Kind regards

Dave
 
Originally Posted by nickcc101
What you would call finger trouble, or just unable to spell.
Casle - Knight, just my sense of humour, no offence intended.
Mike...............Mike I think he may have been a Knight Errant :rolleyes:I would like to know why he was leaving Weoley Castle at )01. 30 am to go to Perry Barr? could a it be.. maybe.. a young lady may have the answer ??;) maybe not ?:rolleyes:
 
OtherHalf said:
Originally Posted by nickcc101
What you would call finger trouble, or just unable to spell.
Casle - Knight, just my sense of humour, no offence intended.
Mike...............Mike I think he may have been a Knight Errant :rolleyes:I would like to know why he was leaving Weoley Castle at )01. 30 am to go to Perry Barr? could a it be.. maybe.. a young lady may have the answer ??;) maybe not ?:rolleyes:
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"O" to be young again.
 
Richie said:
I'm an ex-HGV not PSV man myself, so would the specification Leyland Royal Tiger be the exact name? In connection with my work activity have come across photographs of what I think are the actual thing as export items.

Richie.
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Royal Tiger and Tiger Cubs, Stocklands Leyland ex Gliderways was a Tiger Cub.
 
OtherHalf said:
Originally Posted by nickcc101
What you would call finger trouble, or just unable to spell.
Casle - Knight, just my sense of humour, no offence intended.
Mike...............Mike I think he may have been a Knight Errant :rolleyes:I would like to know why he was leaving Weoley Castle at )01. 30 am to go to Perry Barr? could a it be.. maybe.. a young lady may have the answer ??;) maybe not ?:rolleyes:
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Reckon you could be right there nick, a bit of a Knight Owler as they used to say.
Mike:)
 
New to this forum guys and just browsing, not into buses at all but totally facinated by the Guy Arab picture. When did BCT operate these buses?
 
The 'new-look' (nicknamed 'tin front') Guys were delivered between 1950 and 1954, and some ran into the mid 70s, a commendable achievement for their maker and the men who maintained them. Several survive in preservation, and some like Wythall museum's JOJ 976 are still licenced as PSVs, running services on open days and doing private hire duties as well.
 
chocks2 said:
New to this forum guys and just browsing, not into buses at all but totally facinated by the Guy Arab picture. When did BCT operate these buses?
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Hi, I remember all these new buses being introduced in the early '50's,it was quite a thrill for a youngster like me to get on a brand new spotless bus.I remember my dad saying that they had fluid flywheels and a wilson pre-selector gearbox,but was this all the new buses,or just the Daimler versions? Or perhaps none of them had them ? I feel sure somebody will enlighten me.................Mal.
 
The Guys and Daimlers had Fluid Flywheels and Wilson Epicyclic Pre-selector Gearboxes, mallyb2. Crossleys and Leylands had normal clutch and gearbox transmission, although there were non- standard vehicles - a few Guys had clutch & gearbox transmission, and at least one Crossley had automatic "Brockhouse turbo-transmitter" transmission. One Leyland had this fitted later, too.
Many of the pre-war Leylands had Lysholm-Smith torque converters, and the symbol "Gearless Bus" on the radiator.
 
Lloyd said:
The Guys and Daimlers had Fluid Flywheels and Wilson Epicyclic Pre-selector Gearboxes, mallyb2. Crossleys and Leylands had normal clutch and gearbox transmission, although there were non- standard vehicles - a few Guys had clutch & gearbox transmission, and at least one Crossley had automatic "Brockhouse turbo-transmitter" transmission. One Leyland had this fitted later, too.
Many of the pre-war Leylands had Lysholm-Smith torque converters, and the symbol "Gearless Bus" on the radiator.
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Hi Lloyd,yes I thought that might be the case,though I had not thought about the Guy vehicles being fitted with the Wilson transmission,but it is obvious really,with Guy being owned by Daimler,or were they then,or did that come about later ?.............Mal.
 
Lloyd said:
The Guys and Daimlers had Fluid Flywheels and Wilson Epicyclic Pre-selector Gearboxes, mallyb2. Crossleys and Leylands had normal clutch and gearbox transmission, although there were non- standard vehicles - a few Guys had clutch & gearbox transmission, and at least one Crossley had automatic "Brockhouse turbo-transmitter" transmission. One Leyland had this fitted later, too.
Many of the pre-war Leylands had Lysholm-Smith torque converters, and the symbol "Gearless Bus" on the radiator.
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Hi Lloyd

Wonder if you missed my post #433? I'm sure you would have the answer
to my question!:)

Kind regards

Dave
 
Sorry, yes. The bonnet and therefore radiator position varies according to engine make and type. Pre war Daimlers had Gardner 5 cylinder diesel engines (which gave comparable or greater power than the 6 cylinder petrol engines in earlier buses) and they were very cool running, so no fan was necessary behind the radiator, which leaned back at the top.
Postwar, the first Daimlers had AEC engines, then others came with Daimler or Gardner engines - all 6 cylinder with fans. Cab sizes varied slightly as well, which makes a difference to the apparent radiator position.
Here are the comparisons: GOE 484 with AEC engine, GOE 564 with Gardner engine, and JOJ 1 with Daimler engine.
 
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