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Birmingham Bedstead Factories

bordesley bob said:
Magnificent bed.

The Peyton Family

The Peyton Family of Tardebigge and Birmingham
www.phelps-ancestry.co.uk

This tells the history of Peyton family and talks about the Bordesley works who made beds in Bordesley Green. If there was a patent was there any names on the Patent? My great grandfather was born in 1861 same year as that bed, and his father was a bed designer who worked with the Bordesley works and was rewarded with an expensive granite tombstone in recognition of his innovation in the industry., when he died in 1895, he was William Pitt.
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Bob, in you post above #27, reading the link; the Peyton family are mentioned ( toward the bottom right hand column).
 
irinahernandz said:
Hello, I am writing to you from the municipal museum of La Vila Joiosa (Vilamuseu) in Alicante, Spain. We have a house museum set in the 19th century and we are doing research on a brass canopy bed that was probably made in Birmingham. We have the patent mark in the shape of a diamond which tells us that it was patented on 28 February 1861. We have searched the British Library and the British Archive documents and have been unable to find any like it. Nor do we know the manufacturer or how it arrived in Spain. We have found similar beds but none like this one.

Please, if anyone has any information, it would be of great help. Thanks in advance.
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Magnificent workmanship. My wife advises that Williams Sonoma and upscale US retailer features a bed similar although not and grand as the one shown in post #28.
 
Good morning, thank you very much for the information about Peyton and William Sonoma, we are looking into it. As for Bob's question about whether there was a name on the patent, we have not been able to find any other name or mark or sign, do you know if beds of this type and chronology used to have any other markings besides the patent?
Thank you so much!
 
irinahernandz said:
Good morning, thank you very much for the information about Peyton and William Sonoma, we are looking into it. As for Bob's question about whether there was a name on the patent, we have not been able to find any other name or mark or sign, do you know if beds of this type and chronology used to have any other markings besides the patent?
Thank you so much!
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Sorry Irena, I have no idea. Best of luck with the research.
 
mbenne said:
About Slumberland...

Slumberland was formed in 1919 under the name of Crown Bedding by John Seccombe, a recently demobbed airman using his war gratuity. Originally established in Sherlock Street, Birmingham along the street from his father's drapery store. The first Slumberland products to be produced were feather pillows, straw palliasses and flock mattresses.
At that time their bed bases were formed by stretching a woven wire mesh over a metal frame - when the wire sagged, the tension could be restored by winding it up with a handle!

The Slumberland logo was introduced in the early 1930’s on a range of beds and became so popular that the name remained as a brand and grew into one of the largest bed and mattress brands in the world. In 1940 Crown Bedding is reported to have been producing tank parts and was heavily into Government contracts, which not only involved the making of beds for the military, but also parachutes, emergency rubber water tanks, military webbing, repairing of R.A.F aircraft gantries, and many other types of war equipment.

In 1947 a British Industries Fair Advert shows the company as Manufacturers of "Slumberland" Registered Spring Interior Mattresses. "Slumberland" Registered Spring Interior Divans. "Slumberland" Feather Pillows and Bolsters. "Intalok" Hospital Spring Interior Mattresses. "Intalok" Upholstery Spring Units. "Restola" Registered Upholstery.

In 1970 Duport took over Slumberland Ltd and its associated companies giving the combined group 30% of the UK beds market (including Vono's share). The manufacturing base eventually moved to Cambridgeshire following a buy-out in 2001 by Hilding Anders– the largest bed group in Europe, which also acquired three other bed and furniture firms, including Myers. In 2013 the group was taken over by Steinhoff.

Can anyone throw any light on the slumerland founder - he is allegedly John Seccombe but as far as I know he was always known to employees at the Redfern Road Works, Tyseley as "Mr Jack". By coincidence I came across the below extract from a web search describing the evacuation of a young boy, the son of a Slumberland employee in WWII.

What was Mr Jacks RAF history and who was his RAF pal Mr Beasley?

"In this hall stood a large grandfather clock but more important a wooden aeroplane propeller, which to me was awe inspiring. The propeller, and sadly as it turned out, was from the aeroplane in which the pilot son of Mr and Mrs Beasley had been killed, in the Great War. Mr and Mrs Beasley was a delightful old couple who made us immediately welcome, and by coincidence Mr Beasley had been an acquaintance of Mr Jack Seccombe, the company Chairman of Slumberland in Birmingham and Dad’s supreme boss".

Advert from 1949
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It's so surprise to find these old pitures through web search, seems Slumberland has very limited distribution in UK nowadays. But in east and south asia it still be one premium mattress brand.
 
tuoeast said:
It's so surprise to find these old pitures through web search, seems Slumberland has very limited distribution in UK nowadays. But in east and south asia it still be one premium mattress brand.
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Welcome to the Forum tuoeast, a very good place and folks, enjoy!
I was a little surprised regarding Slumberland, my parents, sister and I all slept on Slumberland beds and mattresses when we lived in Handsworth. The Slumberland brand was quite available in the 1950 to1963 timeframe.
 
Regarding Mr. John Seccombe being known as Jack I would mention that my late father was a John but usually known as Jack. Some people here, some years ago, also called me Jack though of course it is not my name. I never corrected them, I felt is was an honour - I believe it would be rude to do so - to be called by his name.
 
Radiorails said:
Regarding Mr. John Seccombe being known as Jack I would mention that my late father was a John but usually known as Jack. Some people here, some years ago, also called me Jack though of course it is not my name. I never corrected them, I felt is was an honour - I believe it would be rude to do so - to be called by his name.
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Absolutely, I had an uncle Jack who’s given name was John.
 
Richard Dye said:
Welcome to the Forum tuoeast, a very good place and folks, enjoy!
I was a little surprised regarding Slumberland, my parents, sister and I all slept on Slumberland beds and mattresses when we lived in Handsworth. The Slumberland brand was quite available in the 1950 to1963 timeframe.
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Thanks Richard, it was all by coincidence. Found the root of this brand and lots of old pictures, stories never seen or heard before in this forum. Happy to join this nice and warm forum.
 
Ebay, Heritage & Birmingham’s first Lord Mayor

I’ve long been a fan of ebay and how it can be used to support local research and heritage. I’ve saved [copied!] many a local postcard or memorabilia to add to my local history collection. Occasionally I even buy something! Nothing unusual about this – I’m sure many other members are into this and would be interested in other members views or experience? Here’s a simple example:

One of my interests is Birmingham bedstead makers and particularly the Trowmans of Malvern Hall. Browsing on Ebay this old invoice caught my attention:
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I’ve never heard of the Highgate Bedstead Works, nor can I trace any info about it except a reference in Ray Shill’s wonderful book which lists it in Athole Street and operating between 1872 – 1912. Must be the same firm. It’s probably a great leap of faith, it’s a common name, [can anyone confirm?] but Birmingham’s first lord mayor was [Sir] James Smith who made a mint in the bedstead trade and lived at Edgbaston Hall.

Sir James was chairman of the BHam public works committee and is commemorated on a bronze plaque on the bridge over the River Cole in Hall Green.
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I do hope he is the same James Smith! As I say, a bit of leap of faith!
 
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Eric Gibson said:
Nice handwriting.................... if only I could decipher it. ;)
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Hi Eric, hope this helps.

THIS BRIDGE WAS BUILT
TO REPLACE TWO BRICK
BRIDGES ONE OF WHICH
STOOD 37 YARDS EAST
AND THE OTHER 32 YDS
WEST OF THIS SPOT
IT WAS OPENED ON THE
20th DAY OF JULY 1914 BY
ALD. SIR JAMES SMITH J.P.
CHAIRMAN OF THE PUBLIC
WORKS COMMITTEE

Also gives name of Town Clerk and City Engineer & Surveyor but can't decipher them.
 
superdad3 said:
Hi Eric, hope this helps.

THIS BRIDGE WAS BUILT
TO REPLACE TWO BRICK
BRIDGES ONE OF WHICH
STOOD 37 YARDS EAST
AND THE OTHER 32 YDS
WEST OF THIS SPOT
IT WAS OPENED ON THE
20th DAY OF JULY 1914 BY
ALD. SIR JAMES SMITH J.P.
CHAIRMAN OF THE PUBLIC
WORKS COMMITTEE

Also gives name of Town Clerk and City Engineer & Surveyor but can't decipher them.
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I think Eric might have meant the handwriting on the invoice?
 
And another one...............

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Wales Ltd, was at the Atlas Works in Oozles Street from 1887 until 1955 when they were taken over by Hoskins & Sons. There is a very interesting & detailed account in Ray Shill's book. The Works later became the Birmingham Motor Tax Office.
 
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superdad3 said:
Ebay, Heritage & Birmingham’s first Lord Mayor

I’ve long been a fan of ebay and how it can be used to support local research and heritage. I’ve saved [copied!] many a local postcard or memorabilia to add to my local history collection. Occasionally I even buy something! Nothing unusual about this – I’m sure many other members are into this and would be interested in other members views or experience? Here’s a simple example:

One of my interests is Birmingham bedstead makers and particularly the Trowmans of Malvern Hall. Browsing on Ebay this old invoice caught my attention:
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I’ve never heard of the Highgate Bedstead Works, nor can I trace any info about it except a reference in Ray Shill’s wonderful book which lists it in Athole Street and operating between 1872 – 1912. Must be the same firm. It’s probably a great leap of faith, it’s a common name, [can anyone confirm?] but Birmingham’s first lord mayor was [Sir] James Smith who made a mint in the bedstead trade and lived at Edgbaston Hall.

Sir James was chairman of the BHam public works committee and is commemorated on a bronze plaque on the bridge over the River Cole in Hall Green.
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I do hope he is the same James Smith! As I say, a bit of leap of faith!
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I think he was using a bit of poetic licence, Athole Street is opposite Highgate Square. Apparently Wharf Street became Part of Suffolk Street but I don't understand that as part of the address.
 

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Vivienne14 said:
A bit of history. Also known as James Smith Bedstead Co. Existed in 1873 (Wharf Street)..

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I said in Post 41 - "I do hope he is the same James Smith! As I say, a bit of leap of faith!" Many thanks for article confirming that yes, he is the one! Looks as if they started in Wharf Street and later moved to Athole Street.
 
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James Smith is not listed in Wharf st in Whites 1873 directory, but is listed in Kellys in the 1876 edition under that name an din following years till the 1912 edition
 
Workshop for the World enabled me to give a good account of the Birmingham Bedstead Trade.

When I saw Irenas account of the Spanish Bedstead, I did think that I have seen that type of shape of bedstead in an an advertisement, but on checking notes cannot find a similar design

However the references on the bedstead seem to indicate a design specification which may be traceable through the National Archives

Guesses include Winfield and Peyton

Ray Shill
 
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