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Aston St Aston Road Lichfield Road pubs

Pedrocut

Pedrocut

Master Barmmie
It does look like Aston Street is old, and looking for Inns in Aston Road before 1850 brings up...

1846 there is the Old Green Man, Aston Road with stabling, and accommodation for 25 horses, but does not say where.

1832 the General Wolfe Tavern, in Aston Road, corner of Love Lane.

1838 the Royal Elephant Inn, Baggot Street, Aston Road.

1836 the Red Lion situate in Aston Road.

1840 the New Peacock, in Aston Road.

1849 the Nightingale, Aston Road.
 
Pedrocut said:
It does look like Aston Street is old, and looking for Inns in Aston Road before 1850 brings up...

1846 there is the Old Green Man, Aston Road with stabling, and accommodation for 25 horses, but does not say where.

1832 the General Wolfe Tavern, in Aston Road, corner of Love Lane.

1838 the Royal Elephant Inn, Baggot Street, Aston Road.

1836 the Red Lion situate in Aston Road.

1840 the New Peacock, in Aston Road.

1849 the Nightingale, Aston Road.
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Going back to this post, I wonder where the Inns were situated along the road.

1846 there is the Old Green Man, Aston Road with stabling, and accommodation for 25 horses, but does not say where.

1832 the General Wolfe Tavern, in Aston Road, corner of Love Lane.

1838 the Royal Elephant Inn, Baggot Street, Aston Road.

1836 the Red Lion situate in Aston Road.

1840 the New Peacock, in Aston Road.

1849 the Nightingale, Aston Road
 
The Royal Elephant, Bagot Street, and the General Wolfe, Love Lane may still have existed in 1902.....(Bagot St by the Rolling Mills).


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On the above map there is an empty triangle at the point where Aston Road, Love Lane and Holt Street meet. (Opposite the General Wolfe) This was the site of the Old Green Man, but missing in 1902.

There is a building shown on the 1887 Map and a licence issued in 1895, but by 1902 gone.
 
Annotated 1902 Map showing the locations of the Old Green Man, Royal Elephant and the General Wolfe.

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Think it might be worth having a thread for Aston Road/Lichfield Road pubs if everyone's agreed. Viv.
 
yes viv maybe a good idea and leave the vine inn a seperate thread as we have done so much research on it..

lyn
 
These were/are all located on Lichfield Road, Aston.I've put dates in brackets to show where there are newspaper references. Some may be one and the same (through name changes). Quite a few date back to at least the 1860s. Some may go back further to when Lichfield Road was Aston Road. I searched using the Lichfield Road title only. Viv.

Church Tavern (1865, 1866, 1867)
Red Lion (1866, 1867, 1877, 1951)
Aston Hall Tavern (1866)
Victoria Inn (1862, 1871)
Duke of York (1869)
Swanpool Tavern (1877)
Manor Tavern (1877)
Reservoir Tavern (1865)
Gunmaker's Arms (1866)
Britannia Inn (1950)
 
Vivienne14 said:
These were/are all located on Lichfield Road, Aston.I've put dates in brackets to show where there are newspaper references. Some may be one and the same (through name changes). Quite a few date back to at least the 1860s. Some may go back further to when Lichfield Road was Aston Road. I searched using the Lichfield Road title only. Viv.

Church Tavern (1865, 1866, 1867)
Red Lion (1866, 1867, 1877, 1951)
Aston Hall Tavern (1866)
Victoria Inn (1862, 1871)
Duke of York (1869)
Swanpool Tavern (1877)
Manor Tavern (1877)
Reservoir Tavern (1865)
Gunmaker's Arms (1866)
Britannia Inn (1950)
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Of the taverns mentioned it looks like the only one that appears in Pigot's Dir 1828/9 is the Duke of York. There may be a couple more depending on where the front door appeared. (the Summer Lane quiz question!)

This may give an idea of just how the area built up over time. The Vine does not appear.
 
Looking at White’s Dir of Birmingham 1855 gives a list of Birmingham streets, lanes, greens, courts, places, squares....

It gives Aston Street (41, Stafford St....presumably where it either starts or ends)
Aston Road, Gosta Green.
Aston brook, Aston Road.
But NO Lichfield Road.

There are listed streets like Duke Street off Aston Street, and also Rockey Lane, Thimble Mill Lane, Long Acre and Mount Street.

None of the taverns above are mentioned, but the older ones such as the General Wolfe, the Golden Lion and the Old (now New) Peacock are mentioned. Maybe we are looking at a time of great expansion?
 
The duke of york also appears in the 1820 commercial directory with licensee of the name of Digby Crisp
 
Has anyone any information on the pub opposite the Peacock in Aston Street. I think it was called the Castle Inn and was there in 1856. Possibly on the corner of Duke Street.
 
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Aston Street was quite short, and the 1887 OS 25 Map shows the position of the PHs. Unfortunately it is only available for half of the length and so the 1902 Map is taken for the continuation.

The 1887 OS 6 inch gives the length but no PHs are marked, and so I have marked this with the PHs. Taking the info from the 1890 Kelly’s Directory the names of the PHs can be found.

(If any mistakes can be found I can correct the map.)

One interesting thing is that if you follow Aston Street on the 1887 OS 25 Map, and on the SE side from Vauxhaul Street, you will come to White Lion Passage. In Kelly and in the press this is called Golden Lion Passage!
 
Further info on the above post that may be helpful to anyone researching further.

The White Lion Passage/Golden Lion Passage may suggest a White Lion PH, but I can’t find any mention. The Golden Lion can be dated from at least 1830 and the Old Peacock from at least 1828.

There is an advert in 1838 for the disposal of the Grand Turk, also known as the Turk’s Head, Aston Street.

The Grapes dates from at least 1821, and the Swan with Two Necks 1825.
 
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Re #11, there is still an Aston Tavern, recently restored/reopened after a lengthy closure but that is in Aston Hall Road by Aston Church (hence the name). My late fathers local, I have been in there many time, particularly when the Onion Fair was there in the 50's, was there another Aston Tavern in Lichfield Road ? Attached a painting after its recent restoration EricAston Tavern 2015.jpg
 
There was an Aston Hall Tavern on Lichfield Road Eric (well according to adverts in the newspapers in 1866). Viv.
 
Thanks for the map Pedrocut, my gt gt grandfather, William Henry Hartwright, was a silk dyer and had premises very close (if not next door) to the Castle. He died very suddenly and his inquest was held at the pub with the usual cop-out finding of 'Visitation from God'. He was 46. I think some rebuilding must have taken place between censuses as they moved over the road near to the Peacock. Or maybe it was an economy measure.
 
Thanks Mike, that means it was probably an economy measure. I must look up the house numbers to make sure I've got my facts straight.
 
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Vivienne14 said:
There was an Aston Hall Tavern on Lichfield Road Eric (well according to adverts in the newspapers in 1866). Viv.
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The Aston Hall Tavern is a bit of a puzzle. The Kelly’s of 1890, as far as I can see, does not list it in Lichfield Road, in fact it doesn’t mention in the lists.

Most of the adverts do say Lichfield Road, but the odd one says Tower Road, but not listed there either.

I have always thought that the one in Eric’s picture was the Aston Tavern. Interesting that in this advert from 1871 it is the Old Aston Tavern.
 
Pedrocut well the Aston Tavern I know certainly would be convenient for the Park and Hall (not to mention the Church) as mentioned in your advert. I have painted an earlier pic of it dated 18?? something so it must be pretty old, I would be most interested to know when it was built. Incidentally my Doctors was next door between the pub and the church.
 
cookie273uk said:
Pedrocut well the Aston Tavern I know certainly would be convenient for the Park and Hall (not to mention the Church) as mentioned in your advert. I have painted an earlier pic of it dated 18?? something so it must be pretty old, I would be most interested to know when it was built. Incidentally my Doctors was next door between the pub and the church.
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My doctor as well when a lad. Think his name was Freshwater?
 
cookie273uk said:
Pedrocut well the Aston Tavern I know certainly would be convenient for the Park and Hall (not to mention the Church) as mentioned in your advert. I have painted an earlier pic of it dated 18?? something so it must be pretty old, I would be most interested to know when it was built. Incidentally my Doctors was next door between the pub and the church.
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The Aston Tavern seems to be very old. There are sales of forestry from the tavern recorded in 1821, so it must be even older.
 
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