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Aston St Aston Road Lichfield Road pubs

Looking at the two images of the Aston Tavern, it might well originally have been a house. The front (bar ?) has been extended onto the pavement. And it looks like a gable feature was partially removed from an adjoining single storey building to make way for this extension. Viv.
 
The first picture in pot 31 by Vivienne is just before demolition - so the web site says. The tavern is mentioned below:

The Manor of Aston contained the central hub of Aston Parish; the village, the parish church, and the great manor house called Aston Hall (with its historic deer park), but when the Grand Junction Railway was driven through the area, it drew a line separating the river from Aston Manor. The Serpentine, the meander which lurched too deeply into the village of Aston, was also cut away by the railroad, and left as a motionless arc shaped pool. More pools formed at its centre, and the nearby Aston Tavern utilised the picturesque ‘Old River Tame’ at the bottom of its sloping ornamental ‘tea gardens’ and platforms were erected for fishing (which was, apparently, excellent, and one of the favourite spots around Birmingham). Further from the Tavern, boathouses were built, and you can imagine summer afternoons with the paddles sweeping against the water, and Victorian ladies reclining with their parasols. It was described in 1838 that the Aston Tavern attracted “a great deal of company in fine weather, from the pleasantness of the situation and the taste displayed in the laying out of the ground”. Its situation during the nineteenth century was a fine one; it stood with a number of other buildings (some timber-built Tudor constructions) along what was called Aston Street (now Witton Lane), with the Holte Almshouses (completed 1656, see images below) standing opposite.
 
Taking info from the 1890 Kelly's Directory I have added the PHs mentioned in Aston Road and Aston Road North to the OS 25 inch Map.

It may not be complete or accurate but if anyone can find further info I will add to Map.

For Kelly in 1890 Aston Road started at Gosta Green, Aston Road North at Aston Brook and the Lichfield Road at Aston Cross.

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The Aston Hall Tavern reveals itself!

Taking the Lichfield Road description from the 1890 Kelly’s. It starts at Aston Cross and moves along the south side of the road towards Gravelly Hill. The clip shows the approach to Park Street and then comes The Vine and Sandy Lane and on to Holborn Hill and Thimble Mill Lane. Just beyond there is the Swan Pool Tavern.

Taking the 1868 description we move past Catherine Street and on to Park Street and The Vine, and would you believe the Aston Hall Tavern is next mentioned, and soon to the Swan Pool and the Waterworks and Aston Wharf. Waterworks St is on the opposite side of the road. (the North side).

So did the Aston Hall Tavern close before 1890? Looks like Sandy Lane and Holborn Hill May not have existed in 1868.

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There was an Aston Hall Tavern on Lichfield Road Eric (well according to adverts in the newspapers in 1866). Viv.
 
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D8C1EE12-AB00-47C2-B906-E2350E0AF699.jpeg A section of the Tithe Map from the “Vine Thread” may be useful, remembering that it may have to be rotated slightly.

A road “from the Lichfield Turnpike Road near the Vine.....into the main line of road already laid out from the Cross Inn to the village of Aston, opposite the Church. (Park Road).

Are they referring to Victoria Road. The Tithe map may already show Church Lane and Church Road opposite the Vine?
 
I keep finding that my ancestors were involved in many pubs around Aston and Erdington.
Here my Great grand father’s brother, Aston Hall Tavern, has been on the wrong side of the law again!

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The Aston Tavern seems to be very old. There are sales of forestry from the tavern recorded in 1821, so it must be even older.

yes pedro the aston tavern thats there now is an 1891 rebuild there has been an aston tavern on that site since 1561

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Taking Vivienne’s list from post 11, and adding the Waterworks Tavern, may complete the PHs in Lichfield Road according to the Kelly’s of 1868. The dates are the earliest that we have seen mentioned.

I have marked them on the 1902 OS Map.

Golden Cross (1826
The Vine (1839
Church Tavern (1865
Red Lion (1866
Aston Hall Tavern (1862
Victoria Inn (1854
Duke of York (1820
Swan Pool Tavern (1857
Reservoir Tavern (1865
Gunmaker's Arms (1864
Britannia Inn (1850

Water Works Tavern (1863
(King Edward PH .....recorded in 1940 Kelly as King Edward PH)

[Lady P’s post 52, made me look at the top picture and notice that the name of the Reservoir Tavern, at Cuckoo Bridge has been cut off. There was a tollgate there until it was removed in 1862.]
 
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Taking Aston Tavern back to December 1821 in this timber auction notice. Viv.
 

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One for the list ? The Old Green Man, Aston Road. It was for sale in May 1846. It's advertised as " Old" so was probably already very old by 1846. And stabling for 25 horses !!! Must have been a coaching inn.

Also like the mention of the modern built phaeton for sale with patent axils. Viv.
 

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Viv, just wondering if it was the Green Man that was 'old' rather than the pub itself, as in 'The Old House at Home'?

The earliest mention I can find is February 1842 and described as an old established Public House, “embracing one of the best Retail Spirit sites in Birmingham”
 
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From Showell’s Dictionary of Birmingham in 1885. It looks like the Aston Cross Tavern and the Golden Cross were the same place, and can be dated back to 1775.
 
Completely inconsequential but I'm actually sitting, at this moment, where the 'Cuckoo' is of Cuckoo Bridge in Pedrocut's post #43. Nice view of the canal which is about 6' away from the window.
 
Completely inconsequential but I'm actually sitting, at this moment, where the 'Cuckoo' is of Cuckoo Bridge in Pedrocut's post #43. Nice view of the canal which is about 6' away from the window.

It looks like the name of the Reservoir Tavern has been cut off the picture in Post 43. There was also a tollgate there until it was removed in 1862.
 
Yes, Pedrocut, I was very sorry to see the Reservoir go. One of the last old buildings along with the King Edward. They have now replaced it with a very distracting, ugly, advertising screen.
 
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One for the list ? The Old Green Man, Aston Road. It was for sale in May 1846. It's advertised as " Old" so was probably already very old by 1846. And stabling for 25 horses !!! Must have been a coaching inn.

Also like the mention of the modern built phaeton for sale with patent axils. Viv.

Found this for Green Man in 1798, but here it says Aston Street.
 
The two maps, from 1731 and 1887, may be of interest. Note that in 1731 Corporation Street did not exist and the road out from the town was called Lichfield Street until it reached Gosta Green. It then became Aston Street and we can see a few buildings on the street.


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Corporation St was built in the 1880s under the influence of Joseph Chamberlain as a means of reinvigorating the city by demolishing slum areas of bad reputation
 
Further info on the above post that may be helpful to anyone researching further...................

The Grapes dates from at least 1821, and the Swan with Two Necks 1825.

The Swan with Two Necks Inn on Aston Street drawn in 1830. Viv.
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I have come across a couple of pubs called "The Swan with Two Necks". Does anyone know the origin of this name?
 
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