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  1. gypsysue

    Black Patch

    Hi, Thanx for the info - what a fantastic history you have! I can't see where we may be related as all of their families were so large and none of mine have any Northampton connections as far as I know. One of my main connections which I am trying to research is through the Joneses. Polly Jones...
  2. gypsysue

    Black Patch

    Hello, Covgirl, Can you give me more info, please? Such as year of birth of Trezi-Ann and maybe her mother & father's names? Anything more for me to go on....
  3. gypsysue

    Institutions for pregnant women

    Take a look at this site - it gives lots of information about the hospitals and workhouses in Birmingham. Scroll down to the picture at the bottom and click on the link to more photos - go to the picture Ref No 101117s1 and it shows Lodge Road and the layout of the hospital, workhouse, etc...
  4. gypsysue

    Institutions for pregnant women

    Ah! The lying in hospital! A lot of women still did not go to the hospitals as there was more chance of you dying there than at home!! Oh, well, good luck in your search and something will pop up when you least expect it!
  5. gypsysue

    Institutions for pregnant women

    Yes, I see what you mean..... Two things come to mind....either like you said she got married again and perhaps the new hubby would not take care of the infant or maybe she simply thought the child would have a better life with it's granddad....or she died say in childbirth and the person who...
  6. gypsysue

    Black Patch

    All is revealed!!! Thanx Coilin!!
  7. gypsysue

    Institutions for pregnant women

    Hi, Sandra! I have some copies of Ordinance Survey maps from 1904 which show a massive workhouse (also a Fever Hospital, a Lunatic Asylum and Winson Green prison all next to one another) in the area probably about a mile away from Lodge Road (there is a large cemetery called Lodge Hill...
  8. gypsysue

    Black Patch

    Hi David! How ridiculous! I thought I'd done something to offend!! Lol! Thanx
  9. gypsysue

    Institutions for pregnant women

    Hi, Sandra, Could you say what year it was please?
  10. gypsysue

    Black Patch

    I don't understand why all the 'Smith' names have been blacked out!!!!
  11. gypsysue

    Black Patch

    Re: Info on Gypsy families in York Also found Baptism of Flora Smith on Familysearch.org 02/01/1881 at Carbrook, Yorks mother named as Nonisse - no named father
  12. gypsysue

    Black Patch

    Re: Info on Gypsy families in York Sixth posting from 1881 Census..... No 3 Waggon River Street Samuel Elliot Head Married 65yrs Willoughby, Notts Hawker (Gipsies) Eliz. Elliot Wife 65yrs Leeds Hawker (Gipsies) Emily Elliot Daughter 16yrs Clown, Derby (Gipsies) Lillia Elliot Daughter 12yrs...
  13. gypsysue

    Black Patch

    Re: Info on Gypsy families in York Fifth posting from 1881 Census..... Back of 9, River Street William Carter Head Married 35yrs Burton-on-Trent Travelling Grinder (Hawker) Barnett Carter Wife 35yrs Mettam, Lincoln Mary A. Carter 16yrs Ilkeston, Nottingham William A. Carter 10yrs...
  14. gypsysue

    Black Patch

    Re: Info on Gypsy families in York Fourth posting from 1881 Census..... 11, River Street N. Smith Head Unmarried Female 24yrs Houghton Pannell, York Harriet Smith Daughter 6yrs Bolsover, Derby Darner Smith Daughter 5yrs Carbrook, York Joe Smith Son 2yrs Carbrook, York Flora Smith 3mths...
  15. gypsysue

    Black Patch

    Re: Info on Gypsy families in York Thrid posting from 1881 Census.... No2 Waggon (Gypsy) River Street William Smith Head Married 20yrs Bradford, York Gypsy Hawker Sophia Smith Wife Married 19yrs Leics Gypsy Hawker Priscilla Smith Daughter 11mths Carbrook, York Gypsy 9, River Street Edward...
  16. gypsysue

    Black Patch

    Re: Info on Gypsy families in York Second posting from 1881 Census.... Back of 7, River Side Isaac Smith Head Unmarried 26yrs Retford, Nottingham Gypsy Hawker Mary A. (last name listed as Charlotte but both listed as W for Widow or Wife and U for Unmarried so maybe they were living as man and...
  17. gypsysue

    Black Patch

    Info on Gypsy families in York Hi, Folks! Been a long time since I've been on this forum but I think I have some good information for anyone looking for Gypsy families. In the 1881 Census I came across this pocket of Gypsies camping on a river bank in York. 7, River Side, Attercliffe Cum...
  18. gypsysue

    Black Patch

    I'm sorry, I don't think I have much info on the Loveridges of Black Patch....Any photos of the Gypsies of Black Patch were mainly taken by the press and either copies and originals are in the Archive Department of the Birmingham Central Library where they can be viewed. As you must have...
  19. gypsysue

    Black Patch

    Thank you Bren, good job.... It is my grandmother, nineteen year old Emily with her baby Horace's in his christening gown. She is looking sad because Horace's father had gone away to fight in the First World War but he got killed so she never saw him again and he never got to see the...
  20. gypsysue

    Black Patch

    Nah......Alas, she never jumped over the broom (originally a flowering broom not a broomstick) with him!
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