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  1. MWS

    Winter family

    I found a family living on Feakestone Road, Hardwick in 1939. Parents James and Onaero (listed as Arnold) and 3 sons - James J, William Donald Isla and David Ogilvy B. The B could be Bruce and James I think is the English form of Hamish. If so then David died in 1990 in Devon and William in...
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    Melbourne Place, Rea Street South - Where was this?

    On the 1891 census Melboune Place is listed between Sydney Place and a Brass Works and the a Soda Water Works. So I think it is listed as court no. 2 on this 1889 map. It also gas 12 houses which matches the map...
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    Smith William, sawyer, Upper Marshall Street 1851 census

    Esther was born in 1839, as she was under 21 she was probably lying about her age.
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    Smith William, sawyer, Upper Marshall Street 1851 census

    William's parents are listed in Hatton on the censuses. I wonder if at some stage William lived there as well and perhaps was a lock keeper there, explaining his occ. in 1841.
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    Smith William, sawyer, Upper Marshall Street 1851 census

    I would think that the Edward and Harriet was William's brother and sister in law. Esther was living in Hatton in 1851 as was Edward and Harriet.
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    Melbourne Place, Rea Street South - Where was this?

    Can't see it marked on the maps as such. It might be a case of seeing what numbers it is listed between and then trying to work it out.
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    Smith William, sawyer, Upper Marshall Street 1851 census

    Birmingham not Aston. Sep 1848. Age on reg, is listed as 32.
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    Smith William, sawyer, Upper Marshall Street 1851 census

    Appears to marry Ann Cooke in 1856.
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    Smith William, sawyer, Upper Marshall Street 1851 census

    Thanks. Can rule that one out then. And he appears to be alive in 1861, a railway porter living in Camp Hill with wife and children.
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    Smith William, sawyer, Upper Marshall Street 1851 census

    Just seen a baptism for an Edward Smith, son of William and Sarah, Jun 1835 Kenilworth. Possible death reg. Bham 1846.
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    Smith William, sawyer, Upper Marshall Street 1851 census

    That sounds more likely than the one I found, William had a brother called Edward. It seems probable that that is the Sarah in the burial but doesn't make it certainly your Sarah.
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    Smith William, sawyer, Upper Marshall Street 1851 census

    No, it's a William, Sarah and 2 children - Thomas and William. Sarah's age is quite a bit out but 1841 census has a lot of inaccuracies. However, there's no way to know if it's the right family.
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    Smith William, sawyer, Upper Marshall Street 1851 census

    Gosta Green is close to Aston University. It would be about a mile from Adderley St.
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    Smith William, sawyer, Upper Marshall Street 1851 census

    I think the Shut Lane Smith family isn't the right one. There appears to be birth reg. for the two youngest children that match possible baptisms both with mmn Wood. The Ann Wood with them in 1841 being Sarah's sister. I previously mentioned a William and Sarah Smith in Gosta Green. William's...
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    Brown's grocery shop Saltley

    Again from 1949. motor works opposite...
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    Brown's grocery shop Saltley

    From 1949...
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    Smith William, sawyer, Upper Marshall Street 1851 census

    There are a couple possible deaths reg. in Bham - Mar 1846, aged 26 (a bit young and a bit early maybe?) and Sep 1848, aged 32. Tricky and that's assuming she died where they were living and not on a visit to family or something. How have you worked out the other children? And I think you'd...
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    Brown's grocery shop Saltley

    124 Havelock Road is on a corner. 168 Arden road is no more but there is a bit of a slope where it was, so not sure if that rules it out. 24 Ellesmere Road has a small front garden. 39 Adderley Road had a space to it's left as did 108 Saltley Road.
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    Smith William, sawyer, Upper Marshall Street 1851 census

    William's birthplace is listed as Haseley on I think all the other censuses. He appears to have been the son of Thomas Smith and Hannah Keen, baptised 1814.
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    Smith William, sawyer, Upper Marshall Street 1851 census

    I think we've all been caught out by incorrect information on the censuses etc. If you're lucky you realise it quite soon but it can lead you down the wrong path and to a lot of wasted research. And on the subject of jobs, I'd guess for William when he moved to Bham and coming from a rural...
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