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  1. MWS

    Iommi family

    I certainly seem to have taken a wrong step with your Lambe ancestors, so those houses have no relevance. A fairly unusual name, a couple of coincidences and you're tracing the wrong person. :(
  2. MWS

    Iommi family

    Tracking Irish relatives can be tricky, there just aren't as many records available. Making the jump from English born descendants to 1911 Ireland is not always possible, as I found with 2 brothers in law's ancestors. And think I may have jumped the gun a little with only circumstantial...
  3. MWS

    Iommi family

    A little bit of a guess (from your maternal side, Lambe?) ignore if wrong, but here are a couple of houses still standing (neither Bham). First one was occupied in 1939 (no.13) and the second in 1911 (no. 3), though depends if you think it's that one is that old...
  4. MWS

    Iommi family

    The further you go back the greater the likelihood of that being the case, especially in the poorer parts of cities and towns. People bemoan the changes but I can't imagine anyone willing to change their house now for a back to back with an outside toilet that their great grandparents etc may...
  5. MWS

    Iommi family

    Bartons Arms is about the only building still remaining. Roads have changed, High St has been widened and the row of buildings containing no. 81 would have been where the northbound carriageway is. It doesn't have the exact alignment but St Stephen's close is where Whitehead St was.
  6. MWS

    Iommi family

    Hopefully this links to an old map overlaying a modern one. Change transparency (bottom left) to compare... https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=18.4&lat=52.50038&lon=-1.89687&layers=168&b=ESRIWorld&o=90
  7. MWS

    Iommi family

    No, that would have actually have been 81 New Town Row by Manchester Street. 81 High St would have been on the opposite side, out of town past Bartons Arms (on the right). Whitehead St was possibly close to St Stephen's Drive.
  8. MWS

    Iommi family

    Maria Iommi (the wife of Nicola) is listed in the 1939 trade directory as running Coffee Rooms at 169 Booth St.
  9. MWS

    Italians in Birmingham

    No worries, it all adds to the topic. And it looks as if those Verrecchias at least came from a town in the same province (Frosinone) - Vallerotonda which is about 15 miles from Sora.
  10. MWS

    Italians in Birmingham

    On the 1911 census there is a Mary Veraca (Verrecchia) listed as an ice cream vendor. She's born in Italy but not listed as Sora, which is the reason Verrecchia wasn't listed. I don't know of Tony is a descendant.
  11. MWS

    Italians in Birmingham

    Thanks, still a lovely piece of music.
  12. MWS

    Abbey Road

    Johnson maybe? They appear to be listed at no. 42 in 1939. There was a son Edward D Johnson b1919 and there is a prisoner of war record for an E D Johnson. Can't see the transcript, so can't see anymore details.
  13. MWS

    Italians in Birmingham

    Looks a very picturesque, a lovely waterfall. Accompanied by the music of Agnes Obel I think.
  14. MWS

    Italians in Birmingham

    I've never watched The Sopranos. Not a fan of gangster films/shows, haven't seen any of The Godfather films either.
  15. MWS

    Italians in Birmingham

    In 1911 (51) & 1921 (61) almost a third of the Italians in Bham lived on Bartholomew St or New Bartholomew St. For people born in Sora it's almost a half.
  16. MWS

    sillitoe family

    Assuming Joseph Yafrati was indeed the son of Antony then his grandfather, Vincenzo, appears to been convicted of attacking and seriously injuring another Italian, a Giovanni Farina, with a chopper for supposedly making suggestive comments to his wife. This occurred in Jan 1908 but if he was...
  17. MWS

    Italians in Birmingham

    A third of them appear to be ice cream sellers. Names include - D'Ambrosio, Castellucci, Cerrone, Faccini, Lombardi, Musticone, Petricca, Recchia, Sperdute, Valente, Yafrati
  18. MWS

    Italians in Birmingham

    Having recently been looking into 3 family trees with Italian ancestry, I noticed that, interestingly, the town of Sora cropped in all 3 of them. A coincidence, I'm not sure. They all seemed to have come to Bham around the same time, late 1890s, early 1900s. Searching the 1921 census for...
  19. MWS

    Iommi family

    I think Jervis Terrace might still be there...
  20. MWS

    Iommi family

    Could she not still be buried at St Joseph's and not listed or not listed correctly as was mentioned previously I think? Nicola Iommi lived on Booth St, though the other end. Here's a map from 1955 showing Jervis Terrace...
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