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OLD AND NEW PHOTOGRAPHS

The next image is a different angle of the same view and is interesting, on first look you would imagine that the old buildings running down to the right would be long gone and demolished or replaced - however a look on Streetview shows that the image is virtually the same bar a lick of paint and a new shutter, again taken in 1991 but yes over 30 years ago .

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This is rather a general image taken ( so I am told) from the top of Ashted Row, looking towards" town", the student tower blocks and the back of the University building can be seen. As usual there is a lot more road than buildings with cones and road closed signs to the front

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Lastly on this roll, (that shows the number of repeats and duplicates) while not Strictly Birmingham, just over the border we have a couple of Birmingham icons taken from the early days of the Wythall Transport Museum.
Apologies for the quality of the image - probably a scan of a photo of a photo !
A Corporation bus heading towards us - offers on the type gratefully accepted.

EDIT: Challenge taken up by Lloyd:
Not a Corporation bus, A Midland Red one! Possibly 4871 (871 KHA) in WMPTE blue & cream though.
In the other photo, the ex- Birmingham prefab was the early stores building, now long gone (given to Avoncroft museum of buildings, Bromsgrove as spres for their one!) and the building in the distance is a former Bristol temporary school class room, in use as the cafe. It's still there serving the same purpose, but is hopefully to be replaced by a new structure soon. Its location also shows how much the site has extended!
Thanks Lloyd
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Followed by a view of the entrance with an old style bus stop - compare that image with how the site has developed over the years.

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Back again with hopefully a new selection - after posting so many images they seem to merge together and you lose track of whether you have posted or just viewed the image !!
Moving on to Roll 43 - which I know have some duplicates, I hope to avoid double posting . - if you notice I have please shout -no offence will be taken - it will confirm my original thought of seeing a picture before.
For newcomers my details for these pictures are from a typewritten sheet outlining location and date of the picture, these are also pictures of pictures- with an occasional original thrown in - which are all taken on the same day and follow a route around an area either on foot or by car.

First image is a view down High Street Aston to Newtown Row - taken in August 1956, and apart from the bus in the distance not a vehicle to be seen. A few people about and a few Ansells signs, love Norris's sign on the right and the metal StBruno Flake enamel sign.

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I think this is a cropped version of the one below

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Next we move over to Trinity Road and Witton Lane and The Holte Pub, still recognisable - although the area around it has been subject to to redevelopment. I am sure there is a mixed response to this picture dependent on the colour of your scarf !! The picture was taken in 31st March 1991, pity the building on the right has gone the turret is an interesting feature.
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Nothing much changed here since I last saw that in November 1962. Thanks for the memories!
 
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This is rather a general image taken ( so I am told) from the top of Ashted Row, looking towards" town", the student tower blocks and the back of the University building can be seen. As usual there is a lot more road than buildings with cones and road closed signs to the front

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From Lawley Middleway (Ashted Row long gone) and not really looking towards town, that would be more to the left. Nice and shiny, centre right, is Aston Science park which I always thought looked so modern when I used to go past it on the bus but I think some if not all of it has gone as well.
 
Moving onto Roll 44 and only posted in case someone is noting the sheet numbers - all duplicates apart from a couple

First up a Bus from the Transport Museum at Wythall

Reg No: JOJ 976 - new 1953
Chassis: Guy Arab IV
Engine: Gardner 6LW 8.4 litre 6 cylinder
Gearbox: Pre-select
Body: Metro-Cammell 55 seats (27 ft, to operator's design)

EDIT: From Lloyd
Not a Corporation bus, A Midland Red one! Possibly 4871 (871 KHA) in WMPTE blue & cream though.




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Lastly on this roll, (that shows the number of repeats and duplicates) while not Strictly Birmingham, just over the border we have a couple of Birmingham icons taken from the early days of the Wythall Transport Museum.
Apologies for the quality of the image - probably a scan of a photo of a photo !
A Corporation bus heading towards us - offers on the type gratefully accepted.
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Followed by a view of the entrance with an old style bus stop - compare that image with how the site has developed over the years.

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You can say that again!!!!!
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Back with another selection of pictures and a new approach - rather than looking at a roll and deciding " that looks good" I will start from the beginning and work through - also as we are on over 1200 entries posts and comments - we are starting to hit duplicates, I have decided rather than worry about a duplicate unless I am certain I will post and if identified I will remove it - speeds up the process.
I may also shorten the narrative as this allows more posts.
On final note- can I refer to Lyns first post identifying the history of these photos, any history are from a type written sheet , errors and omissions are inevitable - all comments will be credited and original entries updated where necessary. Thanks again to Astoness for allowing me access to these images and letting me bring them to you.
Where photos are of actual locations a route can be identified - here we start on Roll 1 , this is the School of Jeweler in Vittoria Street taken in 1989. Empty streets so taken on a Sunday, with a variety of windows arches with an interesting Balcony on the top floor.

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A bit further along in Vittoria Street we have what is described as " an old house" again taken in 1989, two front doors with a large window in between - there is a large entrance on the right with two windows above and then next door the remains of a property, door and a wall. Seems to give off mixed messages there is a nameplate on the left of the left hand door - but net curtains upstairs and a large gate with a door in.
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We now have Birmingham Assay Office in Newhall Street, imposing frontage with entrance with columns and the coat of arms at the very top.
While the front is columns and railings the side view has a more simplified look, upper floors have the windows and arches but none of the columns. This is listed as 1988 however as the previous images on the roll were supposed to be 1989 - one of them has to be incorrect.

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I have posted a similar picture of this café on my own pages - ( I only remember because of the name!!)
now known as Bobs Cafe - the description says this used to be a pub called The Globe in the 1940's 50's, on the corner of Powell Street and Camden Street, apparently closed for refurbishment, it has seen a number of changes over the years with a variety of window styles and wall coverings and an interesting shed / lean to at the rear.

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SteveBhx said:
I have posted a similar picture of this café on my own pages - ( I only remember because of the name!!)
now known as Bobs Cafe - the description says this used to be a pub called The Globe in the 1940's 50's, on the corner of Powell Street and Camden Street, apparently closed for refurbishment, it has seen a number of changes over the years with a variety of window styles and wall coverings and an interesting shed / lean to at the rear.

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A great montage!
 
The next image is only titled " this was known as a pub called the Trees at one time", following on from the route theory I assume we are on Hockley Hill , with the one time pub undergoing refurbishment. Still retaining its corner entrance it seems to have has a lick of paint upstairs, but still needing a bit of work on the ground floor.
You can just make out a safe shop next door and a Book makers - old style next to that.
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A short walk back into town and we come to White Horse Cellars on the corner of Northwood Street and Constitution Hill, a very grand building with 4 entrances judging by the white globes ( can globes be square?) starting at the front with three storeys reducing to two at the side. Nice selections of windows , with sash on the one level and the top floors wit the small windows.


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Remaining in the same vicinity, we have now moved to St. Pauls Tavern, on Ludgate Hill, lovely symmetrical building with the central plaque , nice selection of parking meters ( what happened to them) and the large chimney, property to the right has an interesting roof and skylight. Windows have metal frames and have all been retained over the years.

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Last building photo on this Roll and we have moved across to Sheepcote Street and this was what was formerly The Albion , as I am not sure where this building was, I am not sure that it is still there, ground floor openings all bricked up so looks like it days were numbered. An interesting row of properties small windows, sash and a small bay on the first floor.

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SteveBhx said:
The next image is only titled " this was known as a pub called the Trees at one time", following on from the route theory I assume we are on Hockley Hill , with the one time pub undergoing refurbishment. Still retaining its corner entrance it seems to have has a lick of paint upstairs, but still needing a bit of work on the ground floor.
You can just make out a safe shop next door and a Book makers - old style next to that.
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This is the same as a similar view I have , but this one has been cropped a little, so shows less of the view
 
Moving onto Roll 2 and a disappointing roll, basically a re shoot of Roll 1 with a few others added.
First up The Old Engine Tavern or so the sign on the wall says, now Nightingale Knitware Centre, Great Hampton Street, we can see the area signs - Newtown in this case - , apart from the pub sign nothing there to offer any idea that it used to be a pub.
EDIT: Great Hampton Row

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Last one on this roll ( said it was disappointing) and may also be a duplicate - this is the Brewer and Baker - unfortunately my list has no mention of this but I am sure you will easily identify it. Looking rather worse for wear but looking like it is been refurbished from the left hand end. Large collection of chimneys so I assume fireplaces in all the rooms

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These last two may or may not be linked- first is The Old Gate Saltley in 1890 , at least the location is correct as we can see the gate on the front of the building, love all the clothes of the day - plenty of top hats and the occasional full dress of a lady - apologies for the quality of the image .

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