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Brearley Street Newtown.

that is a very clear shot of the area john...it shows the star and garter pub better than the actual photo we have of it

lyn
 
Astoness said:
that is a very clear shot of the area john...it shows the star and garter pub better than the actual photo we have of it

lyn
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These aerial views are a revelation Lyn, when I saw St. George's Terrace on the 1889 map it looked a really upmarket area, perhaps it was originally, but as seen in post #24 it doesn't give that impression. I would love to see a picture just after the terrace was built.
 
brummy-lad said:
These aerial views are a revelation Lyn, when I saw St. George's Terrace on the 1889 map it looked a really upmarket area, perhaps it was originally, but as seen in post #24 it doesn't give that impression. I would love to see a picture just after the terrace was built.
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hi john we do have a photo of it on the forum somewhere..will try and locate it

lyn
 
sorry john its colmore terrace i have a photo of not st georges terrace..colmore terrace does have an upmarket house and from memory i think it belonged to someone of note ..also on the forum and you have most likely seen them are photos of gt georges square..

lyn
 
Good morning mikejee,
mike would it be possible to show me the location of 270 Brearley street please. as i am trying to find a picture of it for an ex Summer Lane schoolgirl.
 
mossg said:
Good morning mikejee,
mike would it be possible to show me the location of 270 Brearley street please. as i am trying to find a picture of it for an ex Summer Lane schoolgirl.
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Hi mossg, there is another thread called brearley street newtown, post #217 has the map you are looking for.
 
Thanks Mike I found the map it is 270 I am looking for not 217.
270 is just on the map, I always thought Brearley street only ran between newtown row and Gt Hampton row are there any more properties to the west of 270?
 
Hi can any one see of there were any Field family members in Brearley street between 1850 and 1900 , im sure there was , if so what no did they live at as they are my direct paternal decedents
 
There is a Henry Field living at 316 Brearley St in 1891 with his wife, Dinah, 2 children and 5 step children. He is listed as a Silversmith.
 
changinman1 said:
mmm I dont think hes related ...dont recog the name anyway
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There are a William and Ann, and there 3 children in 1871, he was a spoon polisher.

Also a Joseph and Sarah, and there 3 sons in 1871, he was a gun finisher.

You would need to see the scans to see if there are any numbers.
 
MWS said:
There are a William and Ann, and there 3 children in 1871, he was a spoon polisher.

Also a Joseph and Sarah, and there 3 sons in 1871, he was a gun finisher.

You would need to see the scans to see if there are any numbers.
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joseph and sarah yes ....he died in Rubery asylum in I think 1890 and left sarah a widow and yes thats a sad story as he was only 47
 
MWS said:
There are a William and Ann, and there 3 children in 1871, he was a spoon polisher.

Also a Joseph and Sarah, and there 3 sons in 1871, he was a gun finisher.

You would need to see the scans to see if there are any numbers.
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what no was it on the street that joseph and sarah lived please
 
Stitcher said:
Wales, when I was a tipper driver I worked for W.J.Law Demolition and they knocked Brearly St. down. I could not swear to it but I think most of it went under the runway at the airport.
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what year would that have been ?? ...and you are talking about Bham airport ?
 
if this is to be a family research enquiry could you please continue on the surname interests of the forum as we are going off topic now...thanks

the team
 
brummy-lad said:
I started compiling this map the other day to work out the house numbers prior to renumbering, hopefully it will be of use to somebody in the future. It appears smaller courts were combined into one large court and many courts were obliterated by factories. Census source for this was 1881, Birmingham, St Georges, Districts 5, 11, 14, 19, 29 & 64.
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Great map thanks for posting. It's of real interest to me as the 1891 census shows my then 10 year old great gran Rose Pagett was living at House 3, Court 29, Brearley Street. The next two census' appear to show her in the Birmingham Workhouse.
 
Paulo76 said:
Great map thanks for posting. It's of real interest to me as the 1891 census shows my then 10 year old great gran Rose Pagett was living at House 3, Court 29, Brearley Street. The next two census' appear to show her in the Birmingham Workhouse.
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Slightly clearer map(s), the only map with house numbers is from the 1950s, luckily these correspond (roughly) to the numbers that they would have been in 1891. Court 29 was between Nos. 79 & 81 and it looks as though it became a garage in the 50s. It's a pity we don't have any maps between these 2 dates.
 

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Slightly clearer map(s), the only map with house numbers is from the 1950s, luckily these correspond (roughly) to the numbers that they would have been in 1891. Court 29 was between Nos. 79 & 81 and it looks as though it became a garage in the 50s. It's a pity we don't have any maps between these 2 dates.
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Thanks for the reply. I'm a bit confused, were the courts renumbered? Your earlier map appeared to show Court 29 to be further west by Hockley St, sorry if I'm being dim!
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Thanks for the reply. I'm a bit confused, were the courts renumbered? Your earlier map appeared to show Court 29 to be further west by Hockley St, sorry if I'm being dim!
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You're not being dim at all, it's complicated, I was confused too, that's why I thought I should clarify where Court 29 was in 1891. The courts marked in red were the numbers used prior to renumbering the street which must have happened before 1889 (the map date).
Originally the house numbers were sequential starting on the north side of Brearley Street at Newtown Row, the court numbers were also sequential.
They then changed and used odd numbers on the north side and even numbers on the south side, they also changed the court numbering to match i.e. 1, 3, 5 etc. north side and 2, 4, 6 etc. south side.

I don't know if you've used this website for maps, it's very useful but a bit difficult to get to grips with.

 
hi john a few people have told me how difficult they find it to search the scottish map overlays but i find it easy..not like me :D

paul there are 2 drop down search boxes on the left...all i do is put in os 6 inch 1889-1913 in the select a map box then in the top box where is says type in a place name put in the name of the street or road you are searching ie brearley street birmingham..having said that i always leave it on those settings because it saves changing the background map which can be a bit difficult

the map will then come up and you can zoom in if you wish and move it about

at the bottom of the page on the left you will see a blue dot..just slide it to the right and the old map will fade out to show you what is there today...hope this helps..below is the link and i have left it showing brearley street... below is link to the map which i have left on brearley st for you...

lyn


 
Astoness said:
hi john a few people have told me how difficult they find it to search the scottish map overlays but i find it easy..not like me :D

paul there are 2 drop down search boxes on the left...all i do is put in os 6 inch 1889-1913 in the select a map box then in the top box where is says type in a place name put in the name of the street or road you are searching ie brearley street birmingham..having said that i always leave it on those settings because it saves changing the background map which can be a bit difficult

the map will then come up and you can zoom in if you wish and move it about

at the bottom of the page on the left you will see a blue dot..just slide it to the right and the old map will fade out to show you what is there today...hope this helps..below is the link and i have left it showing brearley street... below is link to the map which i have left on brearley st for you...

lyn


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Thanks both. I've used NLS maps before but used the side by side feature. The transparency feature is really good, will definitely use it in the future. FYI, I have access to lots of historical mapping online via a programme I use for work. There's not as many years mapping available as there used to be on old-maps.com but it's still a good tool to have. I suspect many of the map experts on this site have access to the same mapping already but let mw know if there's anything you want me to look up.
 
brummy-lad said:
You're not being dim at all, it's complicated, I was confused too, that's why I thought I should clarify where Court 29 was in 1891. The courts marked in red were the numbers used prior to renumbering the street which must have happened before 1889 (the map date).
Originally the house numbers were sequential starting on the north side of Brearley Street at Newtown Row, the court numbers were also sequential.
They then changed and used odd numbers on the north side and even numbers on the south side, they also changed the court numbering to match i.e. 1, 3, 5 etc. north side and 2, 4, 6 etc. south side.

I don't know if you've used this website for maps, it's very useful but a bit difficult to get to grips with.

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Many thanks for your reply, that makes perfect sense.
 
brummy-lad said:
You're not being dim at all, it's complicated, I was confused too, that's why I thought I should clarify where Court 29 was in 1891. The courts marked in red were the numbers used prior to renumbering the street which must have happened before 1889 (the map date).
Originally the house numbers were sequential starting on the north side of Brearley Street at Newtown Row, the court numbers were also sequential.
They then changed and used odd numbers on the north side and even numbers on the south side, they also changed the court numbering to match i.e. 1, 3, 5 etc. north side and 2, 4, 6 etc. south side.

I don't know if you've used this website for maps, it's very useful but a bit difficult to get to grips with.

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I didn't know the 1:500 Town plan maps where on there too!
 
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