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Windows 10

carolina said:
My problem is still how do you save a music CD to Windows 10 to be able to copy one so I can also use one in my car.
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Most burning programs (see above for link to a free one) have a facility to copy disks without the need to make a copy on your hard drive. If you're copying music, you might be able to get more than the original CD onto the new one by taking tracks from other CDs.
 
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On the basis that walls have ears, I wonder if being too specific about a particular, copyrighted, commercial CD which is being privately copied, is an altogether wise thing to do. If anyone agrees, I'll do a bit of editing.

Chris

PS I have done it anyway!
 
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Hi Carolina, to put the contents of a cd on your computer :-
The instructions below apply to Windows 10 although in other operating systems the fundamentals are the same but the layout will be different.

RIGHT click on a blank space on your desk top screen select NEW >then FOLDER > call it elvis> put the cd in the drive go to MY COMPUTER or THIS PC, (if it isn't on your desktop go to START and it should be in the pop up) LEFT click on it . locate the drive the cd is in and RIGHT CLICK on it, in the drop down select OPEN, at the top of the folder that opens select HOME > assuming you want all the tracks on the cd at the top of the folder in the middle LEFT CLICK on SELECT ALL > on the far right hand side top of the folder on the right of the scissors emblem LEFT click on COPY >drop the window down (LEFT click on the minus sign at the very top) and LEFT click on the elvis folder on your desk top screen > go to the top of the page and LEFT click on the clip board emblem (PASTE) and all the tracks will be there for you. They are now on your computer.
 
ChrisM said:
On the basis that walls have ears, I wonder if being too specific about a particular, copyrighted, commercial CD which is being privately copied, is an altogether wise thing to do. If anyone agrees, I'll do a bit of editing.

Chris

PS I have done it anyway!
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As I remember it, you have the right to make one copy of a record that you own provided it is for your own use or just as a backup. That was the legal reason that broke some of the copyright protection systems in the early days of CDs.
 
carolina said:
My problem is still how do you save a music CD to Windows 10 to be able to copy one so I can also use one in my car.
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If w10 media player is the same as w7 then insert your Elvis disc & a window will appear & you simply click on "rip cd" (near top left) & it will rip the cd to your hard drive & then you can burn to a blank disc. That`s my way of doing it.
 
wam said:
As I remember it, you have the right to make one copy of a record that you own provided it is for your own use or just as a backup. That was the legal reason that broke some of the copyright protection systems in the early days of CDs.
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Hi WAM I think that 'right' has now lapsed. Will take a look later.
 
All this palaver about what you can and can't legally copy, how does it affect Facebook then?
 
Two things turned up in a check on copyright. The right to copy owned material doesn't seem to exist in this country but the fair dealing clause from the new act seems to exclude a lot of the non-commercial uses. The current copyright on sound recordings is still 50 years after the end of the year in which the recording was first released. So if the Elvis CD is stuff recorded before 1965, it's out of copyright.
 
Anything that can be seen or heard on your computer can be copied.
What one does with the copy is the important thing.

I haven't copied or created a CD/DVD in at least the last three years, so I have a pile of blank disks. I seem to use USB sticks these days and in my car I have a USB plugged in with 2Gb of my music collection.
 
wam said:
Two things turned up in a check on copyright. The right to copy owned material doesn't seem to exist in this country but the fair dealing clause from the new act seems to exclude a lot of the non-commercial uses. The current copyright on sound recordings is still 50 years after the end of the year in which the recording was first released. So if the Elvis CD is stuff recorded before 1965, it's out of copyright.
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Whilst this is no doubt true for the original material, there must surely be some protection for a company or individual who has gone to the trouble and expense of reissuing it and is probably paying royalties as well?

As for Facebook, Terry, it looks to me like a complete jungle where anything goes. I suppose that the offenders - which no doubt include many of us - are protected by the sheer volume of stuff and also the fact that Fb material doesn't seem to be picked up by the search engines. But that doesn't make it right. Some posts are downright illegal or at least immoral and many are discourteous in that little attempt is made to acknowledge sources, whenever they are obvious. It's the latter point which bugs me the most.

The original reason why I raised this matter is that the power of Google etc is so immense that, it seems to me, it's not a bad idea to avoid mentioning specific titles in the same breath as admitting a possible breach of copyright!

Chris
 
ChrisM said:
Whilst this is no doubt true for the original material, there must surely be some protection for a company or individual who has gone to the trouble and expense of reissuing it and is probably paying royalties as well?

Chris
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https://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/ukcs/docs/edupack.pdf
is supposedly the standard guidance on UK copyright. The last page has expiry dates and that's where the 50 years comes from. I would suppose that anyone reissuing after 50 years is either issuing something altered enough to make this a new recording or isn't paying royalties. This is the legislation Cliff Richard tried to change but, given the dates at the beginning of the notice, it looks like he failed. Copyright persists on the songs themselves for much longer.
 
It's now illegal - again - to copy CDs or DVDs you've bought to put onto your MP3 player, your computer or other devices.

The government had introduced a new law in October last year meaning it was legal to transfer music into your home library.
But that law has been overturned in the High Court.
It's after a legal challenge from Basca, the Musicians' Union, and industry representatives UK Music.
It's unclear how the change will be enforced
 
carolina said:
Oh dear, I only wanted a copy for my car. Can of worms .......
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I wouldn`t worry too much Carolina, it`s highly unlikely that the long arm of the law would bother about a copied cd in your car. I have copied cd`s in my car & if challenged i would say i made them when it was legal to do so. If you are unfortunate enough to get locked up in the Tower of London don`t worry, i`m sure BHF would arrange to come & visit :-} Smudger.
 
I don't think they are too worried about individual copiers. It is mainly the multi-copiers who sell online, at car boot sales etc.
Though I think that it is mainly the american firms that pursue people, so it wouldn't be the Tower of London, but perhaps Guantanamo !!
 
I worked in the Music/record industry for 14 years and all of that time it was always agreed that copying for personal use was not a problem. Piracy on a large scale was taken very seriously and we had a specialist unit chasing those up.
 
Smudger said:
It's now illegal - again - to copy CDs or DVDs you've bought to put onto your MP3 player, your computer or other devices.

The government had introduced a new law in October last year meaning it was legal to transfer music into your home library.
But that law has been overturned in the High Court.
It's after a legal challenge from Basca, the Musicians' Union, and industry representatives UK Music.
It's unclear how the change will be enforced
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We 'aff ter earn a livin' guv'nor!

Eddie.
 
I'll just have my final say on this, about 4 years ago I uploaded a video to Youtube of my 8 year old grandaughter dancing to a 30 second recording of Elvis and Jailhouse Rock. Lo and behold I had an email from youtube telling me to delete the video or they would as apparently I had contravened some copyright rule. I was rather put out by it so I took it off and never bothered with youtube again. A bit sad and pathetic really.
 
Terry,

Yes it is pathetic - everyone wants to grab money for breathing nowadays. My ex-bass player uploaded some videos about doing smooth slow motion with an ordinary video camera and included one of his wife ice skating on a temporary ice rink set up outdoors for Christmas in Winchester. The ice rink was playing recorded music, for which they presumably had a licence, and still YouTube insisted that he took it down, so he had to remove the sound track. Pointless load of money-grabbing morons!

Maurice
 
My old laptop which I upgraded in July from Win 7 to Win 10 has just got upgraded to the latest Win 10 version 10586.3
Same procedure has previous up grade took 2 hours. All seems ok so far ...
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ps. Have now updated my newer laptop. Have not noticed any major difference in using it, but apparently many changes 'under the bonnet'. Anyone who has not yet upgraded from W7 or W8 will presumably get this latest version of W10.
You can now have coloured title bars ... a bit like W7 ...
uc
 
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terryb18 said:
I'll just have my final say on this, about 4 years ago I uploaded a video to Youtube of my 8 year old grandaughter dancing to a 30 second recording of Elvis and Jailhouse Rock. Lo and behold I had an email from youtube telling me to delete the video or they would as apparently I had contravened some copyright rule. I was rather put out by it so I took it off and never bothered with youtube again. A bit sad and pathetic really.
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since you would have tried to upload this from the UK, you could argue that the copyright had expired on the recording. It would have been out of copyright at the end of 2007. Since it's YouTube.com they'd probably go by U.S. Law where the copyright is still in force unless it was taken from a radio/TV show there in which case the copyright is expired. In theory a video of Elvis singing Jailhouse Rock live on TV at the time the record release is out of copyright in the USA yet a sound recording or the same footage from the film isn't. To make things even sillier, since the copyright for the song is still in force in this country it's possible that you need permission for your grandaughter to sing it whether or not it goes out on YouTube.
Wouldn't it be funny if the police turned up at one of those sing-a-long musicals and arrested anyone that sang along?
 
I have the ' get windows 10' icon on the taskbar, is it just a case of clicking the upload now button to start the procedure.?
 
Brummie nick, Yes, I clicked it and it took about 55 minutes to download, time will vary I should imagine depending on your PC and download speeds. Still prefer windows 7 but that's progress (?) Eric
 
The 'November Upgrade' I mentioned in post#353 is running well. Two small improvements in it are ...
A nicer useful menu pops up when you 'right click' the start button.
And another pops up when you 'right click' the taskbar.

One not so good thing is Microsoft have reduced the amount free space on 'OneDrive' from 15Gb to 5Gb.
 
Saw this on tech website.
Microsoft's CEO Says Cortana's Going to Kill the Browsers.

Microsoft's CEO Satya Nadella explains that Cortana and the other personal assistants that are being developed by tech companies will soon replace web browsers in our favorite devices, such as PCs, laptops, and tablets.
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Cortana came with my Windows 10 and although my laptop only has an internal microphone I thought I would give 'Cortana' a go..

Activated her and asked 'find birmingham history forum'

She came back with did I mean 'bending history for them' ....
uc


Deactivated her and will be staying with keyboards and Chrome !

I have 'Siri' in my iPad which has an excellent internal microphone and asked her the same question ...

After she had thought for a few seconds she put a map of Birmingham on the screen and said 'here is birmingham what did you want to see' !
 
oldMohawk said:
Saw this on tech website.


Cortana came with my Windows 10 and although my laptop only has an internal microphone I thought I would give 'Cortana' a go..

Activated her and asked 'find birmingham history forum'

She came back with did I mean 'bending history for them' ....
uc


Deactivated her and will be staying with keyboards and Chrome !

I have 'Siri' in my iPad which has an excellent internal microphone and asked her the same question ...

After she had thought for a few seconds she put a map of Birmingham on the screen and said 'here is birmingham what did you want to see' !
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Voice Recognition (like Cortana) generally improves with a little training. https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/5266/windows-10-tip-train-cortana-to-know-your-voice
 
These "idiot applications" are probably OK for someone who hasn't a clue where to look, but for researchers and anyone with any experience I can't see them catching on.

Maurice
 
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