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Walter Collins and the Beet family

i saw them at my mom funeral, so it was last november, but harry keeps me informed how they are,
 
Sorry to hear your about your Mom dying Chris. My condolences, do you know where the Beet Children, and Walter collin's are buried, I've never seen their graves, I suppose it would be Witton Cemetery. To which I am already a regular visitor.
 
i will find out were there graves are first thing tomorrow and get back to you, wally has we knew him cause my mom was alwasy talking about him, do you know did he have a brother big jack, my mom was called katy collins for years and year because she was always with the collins, of course the other half of the family were the attemburys aunty min, and her sons there were 3 or 4 sons i believe but i cant remember if jack was a collins or a attembury, we could never get a family tree together because there are so many names we dont know who belong to who ill be in touch reg christine devlin
 
:)Thanks Chris, appreciate it. Look on page one, post, 11. Thanks to forum member Lloyd, for some good family info. Reg.
 
1901 Census, Beet Family.

Farm Street, Court 67, Park Terrace, Number 3 Hse.

Thomas E Beet, Head, 43, Jewellers Engraver, Born B'ham.
Eliza E Beet, Wife, 42.
Elizabeth E Beet, Dau, 21, Warehouse girl.
? Beet, Dau, 17, Jewel Setter.
Rose Beet, Dau, 15, Lamp Cleaner.
Alfred Beet, Son, 12.
Tom Beet, Son, 10,
Harry Beet, Son, 7.
Leah Beet, Dau, 4.
Frank Beet, Son, 2. All born in Birminham.
 
1901 Census, Beet Family.

Farm Street, Court 67, Park Terrace, Number 3 Hse.

Thomas E Beet, Head, 43, Jewellers Engraver, Born B'ham.
Eliza E Beet, Wife, 42.
Elizabeth E Beet, Dau, 21, Warehouse girl
Florrie Beet, Dau, 17, Jewel Setter.
Rose Beet, Dau, 15, Lamp Cleaner.
Alfred Beet, Son, 12.
Tom Beet, Son, 10,
Harry Beet, Son, 7.
Leah Beet, Dau, 4.
Frank Beet, Son, 2. All born in Birminham.

Frank Beet, marrying Daisy Atterbury, at the age of 22. If my maths is right.?
 
Dear Reg,

The missing name ? is Florrie Beet.

Leah Beet died in 1901, aged 5 years. (Birmingham 6d 94 2nd Qtr 1901)

Yardley
 
hi there Reg, spoke to Harry, he says the graves of the kiddies and of walter is at witton, but go in moore lane entrance and it is the lower end of the graves he hasnt got a number of the ploit, he said they were all buried together, harry has asked for a price of putting the graves in order hope this helps by the way gladys should be out of hospital today, talk later christine devlin
 
Dear Reg,

The missing name ? is Florrie Beet.

Leah Beet died in 1901, aged 5 years. (Birmingham 6d 94 2nd Qtr 1901) Didn't have much luck this family did they.

Yardley[/QUOTE]
 
Hi i have just joined this site and to my astonishment i have seen many replies to a request put in on my behalf way back in sept 2009 by John Houghton regarding Walter Collins and the Beet family.My Mother always told my family that Walter was her half brother, and we have the original photo of Walter in his uniform that was published in the paper on his death in 1937. I have visited his grave on many occasions.My mothers name was May Hackett and her mother Julia Collins. I cannot find out anything about Walter as his birth certificate was arogue entry. Does anyone know if Julia was his mother or did she "adopt him". any info would be appreciated. My mother married Albert Vinning. kind regards jof
 
cannot find out anything about Walter as his birth certificate was arogue entry. Does anyone know if Julia was his mother or did she "adopt him". any info would be appreciated. My mother married Albert Vinning. kind regards jof[/QUOTE]

Hi jof,
Not too sure what you mean about a "rogue" entry?
Is it that a WALLIS & a WALTER Collins were entered as born 1906 Aston JAS ref: 6d 220?

Suzabbe
 
Hi Suzabbe,

thank you for your reply. I applied for Walters birth cerificate and a rogue entry is as explained to me by the Gov Certificate office where a small fee is paid to the registrar office in order for the birth to be acknowledged but no questions asked! so no other details are registered. This was often the case if the child was born out of wedlock! I had been full of hope when I found as you did a ref number but to no avail as a certificate cannot be produced by the cert office as explained. Many thanks for taking an interest. I am hoping that some of the other people who responded a year ago may now pick up my details and get back to me as they appear to be relatives of Walter.
Thanks again jof
 
Hello Jof. I've sent Lindev a PM. regarding your plea for help, I'll go down and see our Glady's and Reg the weekend to see if they can recall anything of Walter. Regards, Reg.
 
Hi Reg wondered if you have had any luck with my request regarding Walter. I am begining to think of the saying "let sleeping dogs lie" and should i let my digging into walters past go! anyway hope this finds you well and look forward to anything you may have learnt. regards jof
 
hi there i am going to talk to harry beet today i will find out what i can about walter collins,
 
Hello Chris. Thanks for that, looking forward to hearing from you again. Harry won't know who I am. But say hello to him from me anyway. Reg.
lindev said:
hi there i am going to talk to harry beet today i will find out what i can about walter collins,
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well were do i start, iv spoke to Harry Beet and we have talked and talked about Walter Collins, we think and we only think that if you cant get a birh certificate he may have been born in southern ireland, because his mom was from there then she came over here and had george jackie and harry who lived in Phillip street, walter was in the army here and then in the fire service when he tried to resue the kiddies he was in his firemans uniform either just finished shift or going on shift this we dont know, we then think that maybe his mom married a atterbury and went on to have my nan sally then minnie then daisy, because my mom was always called katy collins for years and years, but she lived with the atterburys (are you still with me) so there for harry and i think that the atterburys and collins must have been related through marriage, the grave is all done now new headstone put on and all cleaned up thanks to harry, it is witton grave no 22398 plot 117 i would be very interested if the person who is asking for info could perhaps im me with thier moms maiden name and perhaps we could work from that, please let me know if i can help in any way, the family lived for many years in asylum road summer lane and i remember going to this house quite a lot, to visit my aunty min,
 
Thanks Chris. XXXX I'm going to the Cemetery Tomorrow, I'll take some pictures if thats ok with you.?? I'll try and put the photos on the thread ok.?? XXXX
 
hi reg please take the photos i havent saw it now its all done up i would love that, i cant wait to see the grave photos of cousins and uncle i never knew, harry beet said hi to you all and hope you are all keeping well,
 
Hiya Chris. Ok! will go tomorrow and take some photos. Looking forward to that myself, as I've never been to their grave before. XXXX
 
Asylum road ah.!! We lived just round the block in Milton Street.
lindev said:
well were do i start, iv spoke to Harry Beet and we have talked and talked about Walter Collins, we think and we only think that if you cant get a birh certificate he may have been born in southern ireland, because his mom was from there then she came over here and had george jackie and harry who lived in Phillip street, walter was in the army here and then in the fire service when he tried to resue the kiddies he was in his firemans uniform either just finished shift or going on shift this we dont know, we then think that maybe his mom married a atterbury and went on to have my nan sally then minnie then daisy, because my mom was always called katy collins for years and years, but she lived with the atterburys (are you still with me) so there for harry and i think that the atterburys and collins must have been related through marriage, the grave is all done now new headstone put on and all cleaned up thanks to harry, it is witton grave no 22398 plot 117 i would be very interested if the person who is asking for info could perhaps im me with thier moms maiden name and perhaps we could work from that, please let me know if i can help in any way, the family lived for many years in asylum road summer lane and i remember going to this house quite a lot, to visit my aunty min,
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Hi Reg my family lived in milton street Beryl West who married Jimmy Broadhurst they had 2 girls Beverly and Amanda, i think they lived with Beryls mom.
 
Jesus! Chris this is getting spooky.:D where about in Milton street was that Chris, we lived at number 41. I've taken some pictures of Walters resting place. Gonna try and put them on the thread in a bit.:thumbsup:
lindev said:
Hi Reg my family lived in milton street Beryl West who married Jimmy Broadhurst they had 2 girls Beverly and Amanda, i think they lived with Beryls mom.
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What was also spooky Chris, like I said earlier. I swear to you I'd never been to this grave before. "yet" I went straight to it when looking for it.
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For anyone looking for it, Its out by the pedestrian gate at the end of moor lane. Look for the garage in the lane. John Allen machanics.
 
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