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St Nicholas Kings Norton Look Ups

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Joanna

master brummie
Hi there,

I've got a marriage certificate which says the marriage was solemnized at the parish church in the parish of St Nicholas, Birmingham. I've Googled and about all it comes up with is the one in Kings Norton. I'm pretty sure this is not the one I am looking for but it didn't throw anything else up. I then searched on here and found reference to a church in Lower Tower St
https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/index.php?posts/542286/

The people in question lived in Lower Brearley Street at the time of marriage and came from the Aston area so it seems plausible that this could be St Nicholas in question as they had no link to Kings Norton at all throughout their lives.

Is there a way of confirming this from the marriage certificate?
 
What date is the marriage? I ask because Kngs Norton was not Birmingham before around 1911. The date should confirm it, but also I believe that if it was Kings Norton it would have said Kings Norton.

You are right, there was a St Nicholas church in Lower Tower Street, which is near Brearley Street (or what is left of it). There are sadly no photos of the church in existence that we know of, but there is in the Library a photo of the interior.

I think the best person to confirm exactly what church it was is John Yates at the Register Office. 0121 675 2909. He is something of an authority in these matters and will be only too happy to confirm exactly which church it is. I hope this is of some help to you.

Shortie
 
Thanks for the info, it was about 1896 I think (I'm going off the top of my head as the file is elsewhere but it's definitely late 19th century).
 
Some info on the churches St. Nicolas, King's Norton and St. Nicolas, Birmingham: St. Nicolas in King's Norton is spelled without the H which makes it a bit difficult to pin down as it is often listed with the h. The Birmingham St. Nicolas appears both with the H and without it!:
ST. NICOLAS, Birmingham (Lower Tower St.), designed by Martin and Chamberlain and comprising chancel, nave, aisles, and baptistery, (fn. 62) was consecrated in 1868. (fn. 63) A parish was assigned to it out of St. Stephen's, Birmingham, in 1869, (fn. 64) when the living became a vicarage in the gift of the bishop. (fn. 65) In 1942 the benefice was united with that of St. Edward, Birmingham, to form the united benefice of St. Nicolas and St. Edward. (fn. 66) The church was closed in 1947 and subsequently demolished. Might be a photo out there somewhere.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Nicolas'_Church,_Kings_Norton There is a photo on this site of the Church plus other info which is very interesting
https://www.kingsnorton.info/places/st_nicolas_church.htm
 
Philip Orton - marriage 1707

I wonder if anyone can help trace the record for the marriage of Phillip Orton, his first wife died in Bickenhill, Warwickshire in 1704 he then had a son Thomas who was baptised there in 1709.

The only remarriage I can find is on find my past, sadly my membership has lapsed after I rejoined Ancestry!

According to the above he married in Kings Norton, Worcestershire in 1707 but I cannot trace the record anywhere else, can anyone help?

Regards

Clarkie
 
Hi Clarkie,
There's a marriage for Philip Orton (not Ortom as in your title!) it says spouse Elz (I suppose that's Elizabeth) Milward. From Boyd's !st series. It doesn't say where in Kings Norton.
I don't know when St. Nicola's was built, but maybe it was there?
rosie.
 
Hi Rosie,
My error on the name ORTON, if the marriage was 1707 that will be the one.

Many thanks

Clarkie
 
Hi Clarkie,
I'm glad it's the right one, I thought it best to mention it, don't want you on a wrong track!
rosie.
 
I have Ortons (Oughton, Outon, Owton) from Bickenhill in my family tree.

Abraham b1706, son of Thomas.
 
Dear Clarkie

Parish Register marriage transcripts for St Nicolas Kings Norton gives following information:
11 December 1707
Philip Oorton of parish of Bicknell and Elizabeth Millward of the parish of Old Swinford.

Regards
Andy
 
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