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Hingeston Street

this one shows the rose and crown pub where my dad was raised for a few years...

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Great pics - nice to see them back on here again - streets like wot they was!

Place looks barren now in comparison!

Cheers

Brian
 
i agree with you bri...much rather have the streets like this than looking at high rise block of flats...

lyn
 
hi lynn and dibbs
the rose and crown was the first murder then afew years later it was the laurels ather that got stabbed to death
there was a couple of other guys involved but the actual person whom held and struck the gaffer got the bigger half of the sentence i think it was five years in portland and the other guy got less
the guy whom stabbed the gaffer at the laurells done five years came out and still carrieda blade ;
and this same person whom stabbed the gaffer died himself last year
the one at the rose and crown got life meaning in those days was ten years then he was released
i would have imagined he died many years ago the saddest thing i thought about it and i knew the kids very well
that they was at school when this happenend and the education dept and the police along with social services took them ut of school at lunch time before they discovered what went on at home over the years gone bye since they w kids i have met bryan and a couple of the brothers when they became of age to be released by the childrens home
and they got jobs on the building trade the mother was a hard loving deicated woman to all her kids
and strangly enough one of thee neibouirs fell short of the same kind of ending to her life
when she lived next door to mrs tommy curly she was battered in the home after meeting some one in the smiths arms
and this guy went back to little tommy curly mothers house batttered her and st fire to her house but the fire brigade
found her body on the bed and the culprit was captured and got life
i thought how to old friends found there life ends in death astonian alan
 
Just wondering if anyone saw this story in The Mail a couple of weeks ago seems a bit of a jinxy st.
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crikey topsy it certainly was an unlucky street...ive just read about the little girl who was murdered at 1/120 in 1933..i think the rose and crown where dad lived was no 126..i know that dad and his parents had moved out by 1933 but his moms adoptive parents may still have run the pub in 1933...what a sad story...

lyn
 
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1963 in Hingeston Street.
 
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HI LYNN ;
Yes there was always abit of greif down the hingeston street in those days because it was big familys ;
at war so to speak ; i forgot to mention ; that we had a shooting down there just along from the laurells pub
afew years later it was just along from the other shops and on the corner of hingestion street and ickneild st facing
the warstone lane tooilets on the ickneild street end facing the cafe ; ; which was the volana cafe it was called then
it was there for years and gangs used to hang about in there ; and one day the gaffer shot in the face with a gun by the trouble people whomused to freqent the cafe ; a friend of mine whom i shall not mention by name was beat up by a gang there out side ;one eveningby a gang of yobs ;
i beleive thehaveys moved to st marks street or vice a versa at the end of those shops my old mate used to live next door to the shop
is name was terry and the hewits used to live just arond the corner if any body knopws of them and the greekos family nd the pagetts ;
those were the days my friend ; good old hard ties by any chalk if you get the drift ; astonian ;;;
 
some more cracking memories from you alan...wish i had your memory...

thanks for sharing them with us and keep em coming...

lyn
 
My grandmother lived at 123 Hingeston Street from around about 1900 until 1915. I remember seeing the street from the bus when I went to the roller rink, but now wish I had taken the time to walk up there. Does anyone know did the stairs go from the corner of the room, ie, a spiral staircase, or was it a straight one? Not important, but I would like to know.
 
No 123 is shown in red on the c1903 map below and Rose & Crown in blue.

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I know all about this too Alan. At the time I lived up Carver St. My friend who now lives near me, lived in Hingeston St at the time, and when the press came to cover the murder, she had her photo taken right by the house in question, because she lived next door. I am still waiting for her to find the photo.
 
What number was the Rose and Crown Lyn? I would love to be able to identify No 123.

hi shortie my info says the rose and crown was at no 126....i used to go past hingeston st on the way to spring hill rollar rink and like you i wished i had known then the family connection with that street....

mike i wonder if you could double check this for me please and maybe mark the pub on that map you posted for shortie...

thank you mike...

lyn
 
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wonder if anyone recognises anyone in this pic...

residents of hingeston st demand better housing condiitions...dated 2nd may 1969

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my dear dad..taken in the back yard of the rose and crown pub..his grandparents ran the pub and dad lived here for a while....dated 1929

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thanks mariew its the oldest one i have of either mom or dad...it looks as if dad is playing with a toy but i cant quite make it out...

lyn
 
We moved to 130 Hingeston Street in about 1948 and lived there untill it was pulled down in the 60s. I remember, following that awful murder in the 60s, being asked

at my place of work; "What's it like living in a grim, overcrowdwd tenement?". This was its description on the front page of the Daily Mirror in its coverage of the crime.

The description may have been deserved as far as the buildings went but it must have been hurtful to the many hard working people whe kept a clean home there.

Anyway, it seems Hingeston Street always had its share of tragedy as this cutting from 13 May 1865 shows.
 

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Here is the advertisement for the premises of the "Rose & Crown", 22 October 1874.
 

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Interesting snippets so sad about the child from Hingestion Street. I wonder if the case was ever solved.
 
But it seems the pressures of running a business could be quite wearing. 02 Aug 1883
 

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very sad story about the little baby edcartermo..thanks for posting those snipets that relate to the rose and crown..i have found them very interesting as i have a family interest in this pub...

cheers

lyn
 
I have also found this thread interesting, as growing up close to the bottom of Warstone Lane I often played around the Hingeston St area. How sad about the infant, who, it would seem was strangled. Like Wendy, I also wonder if the case was ever solved. It was always a run down area, as were a lot of those very old streets, but the majority of people did keep their homes clean, and they were hard working too. Overall though to me, the area was better then than it is now even though the old properties were in a bad way. Well, it was home wasn't it? Today, it just seems a ghost town.
 
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