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Cadbury Changes

Frothblower

Frothblower

Lubrication In Moderation
Here we go the first move to shift Cadburys out of Brum :redface:


"US food giant Kraft confirmed plans yesterday to restructure iconic British chocolate-maker Cadbury by relocating part of the business to Switzerland, in a move that could reduce its UK tax bill.
Kraft Foods said the reorganisation, which will have no significant impact on UK staffing levels, would see Cadbury integrated into its existing European business model.

Reports emerged yesterday that the changes being implemented by Kraft, which took over Birmingham-based Cadbury earlier this year, were likely to slash its bill for UK corporation tax.

It is understood that Kraft intends to finalise the changes next year, relocating a small number of key roles to its European headquarters in Zurich.

A spokesman for Kraft said: "Since 2006 we have been implementing our European model. The reorganisation has given us greater focus on our priority brands and has helped us grow faster. We are integrating Cadbury into this model. This involves the transfer of certain roles to Switzerland, though the majority of UK-based roles will remain in the UK."
 
You just know it's the start of the end of Cadburys here don't you - the very fact that mentioned it means it's in the pipeline already. Another great tradition to go methinks, so sad! My Aunty worked there tying the bows for the expensive boxes of chocolates, she can still tie a beautiful bow in anything and then I did some twilight shifts there when I trained at Selly Oak, so some fond memories
Sue
 
Read abut this last week Froth. As far as I can tell it was over for the Cadbury's as we remember it when it was sold to Kraft. :( All we have now are memories of people's working lives at Bournville over the years. Some great stories.
 
Just a momento of my late mother's time at Bournville. The date shown was one week before she married and in those times Cadbury did not employ married women. Also on the day she left a Holy Bible was awarded.
 
hi jenny
quite right you are kraft new excactly what they was doining long before they came here they had no intensions of staying and loking after our people
one day many years ago we was the bull dog around the world and the leaders and taught the world afew things
but now we are a reborn sausage dog that disapeared and went excinted but all we are now is the laughing stock of the world
they lead us by the noses and other nations are jumping on the bang waggon taking our lively hood from us and we will end up as the old saying goes
the poor relations of the family totally discusting i say and what a bunch of idiotys we are all standing for the three card trick
the goverment says letstart alll over gain what planet are these guys on i feel sorry for our kids the next generation
what did we fight a war for sold the planes and our battle ships and carriers what have we got left
i have said it before laugh call me stupid but our kids in the future will expereince the stannard of the 3 rd world because thats hopw they will become
 
I noticed in the news last night the new american owners are moving there head office to switzerland, I remember nestley who bought out fry's I think doing the same thing, then they moved all the works there and france, after saying they would not? ring any bells with the american lot!!!
paul
 
Just catching up. Hadnt read that Kraft were 'restructuring' Cadburys by ''intergrating them into its existing European business''
Here in Australia, Kraft market a wider range of their products under their own brand name than in the UK & we have realised that more & more are being 'Manufactured in China' where there seems virtually no health & safety & quality regulations
I would suggest that in time your block of Bournville will not come from Switzerland but in those mid green containers that are spreading world wide from PRC
John Baldry
 
John
Bournville has been manufactured by Poulain (who Cadbury bought some time ago) in France for a couple of years , that is before Kraft took over. They have always specialised in high quality dark chocolate, so that move probbaly was a good idea. As it is it looks like a lot of British products will be manufactured in Poland, which i'm not so sure is a good idea. the last gouble decker I had was decidedly poorly enrobed (sort of holes in it), and i will always remember tthough i don't know if it was one made in Somerdale or Poland
Mike
 
I can assure you Mr baldry my cadburys wont come from china even though I have always loved it , as I would'nt buy it any more!!!!!!
paul
 
This is what happens when foreign riff raff are allowed to get these paws on companies like Cadbury. They make statements that give the impression that nothing much will happen then a few months later thay start asset stripping.

I thimk we all knew that would happen when the likes of Kraft got the compant, the same thing happened when Volvo got hold of Leyalnd Bus, they initially stateted both their own and Leylands range would complement each other and a little later they stopped Leyland production.

Of course our government, who ever they are at the time, do nothing they just shrug thier shoulders and say its free trading, well it wont affect them as they are probably to busy buying third properties to concern themselves.

In a fair and decent country, which the Uk is not, this asset stripping then clearing the trade to a lower tax country would be stopped, buyers of British companies would have to agree that the work stops in the UK but then that would go against the free trade grain and so the likes of Kraft can but a reputable name close the factory, yes it will probably happen, then go about there way.

Perhape we should start a campaign in the hope that all consumers stop buying any products made by the Kraft group.We can start here.........
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/markets/article.html?in_article_id=520679&in_page_id=3&ito=1565
 
It happens a lot when big companies buy smaller ones. It happened to a local bank I was working at, we had 4 branches. We knew all our customers by name, and it had been in existence since the 1700's. The company that bought us, wined and dined us, told us nothing would change, within a year, almost all the departments had been 'centralised', and many employees forced to relocate or loose their jobs. I don't like being bullied by corporations, so I left, I've done this twice now. I've just left a job because they were taken over by Pitney Bowes, making us jump through a lot of hoops. And those that stayed are not happy.
 
I just hate to hear this kind of news; Cadbury's Chocolate is British to the core. The Christmas box with the snowy painting on the front was always a feature of our parcels on Christmas morning and the kids always looked forward to opening it. No sign of this product here for years now and one wonders if it still would be the same. Oh...you can get the cheap blue box...but I don't want that and the centres are not what I remember and the sheen on the chocolate is too shiny for me...maybe it's all gone anyway so what's the point. I want the expensive box, once a year with the look, feel and taste of yore.
There is a market for a quality product I think though and hopefully a modern a version of English Chocolates will spring up if the current one closes there. How about a new name for such an enterprise. How about...'Overbury English Chocolates'...well it's a bit further out than Bournville and lets face it...Cadbury moved out from Bull Street to Bridge Street to Bournville. From what I have read on here; Cadbury treated his workers well so in the same spirit today perhaps permanent location of all facets of operation might be in the companies statement of purpose.
Gosh...we all need something to cling to. Are we all sinking into the boredom of a 'morass of mobile sameness'?
 
Cadbury's Bornville I have always preferred it to the Milk and I still buy it once a month. But the last four months it has increased from 1.69, 1.79, 1.89 and was shocked today when it had gone up to £2.15 at our local shop.

Also in the paper this morning Chocolate bars shrink but prices don't example Cadbury Dairy Milk 140g now 120g reduction 2 chunks. 7 products in all
 
Shrinking chocolate bars has been going on for years Mars were one of the offenders they shrunk the Mars bar and kept the same price and then they go and bring out a larger version for almost double the price. Dek
 
I am a little suprised that we in the UK are still suprised when a massive Intergalatic company like Kraft are allowed to aggressivly take over an English household name then increase the price of commodities, then shut and sack half the workforce, and will proberly move all other operations in 5 years abroad. ?????????????/
paul
 
Does anybody know where Fry's Chocolate Cream bars are or are to be made? Being my all time favourite chocolate bar originally from Fry's Somerdale factory I would like to know where they are produced as to whetherI carry on eating them. For as long as chocolate comes out of Bournville, even under Kraft ownership, we should continue to buy it to support the workers there - but again, we need to know the actual range still made there. Info would be most welcome.
 
I don't know where chcolate creme bars will come from , but they always were made in Somerdale, not Bournville and I think it very unlikely that it would move to Bournville . The Bournville bar has been produced in France for 2 or 3 years. Chocolate Creme was therefore the only European dark chocolate bar produced in the UK, so possibly it might move to France.
mike
 
Looks like the Fry's Chocolate Cream bars will be made in Poland when Keynsham finally shuts down. But where in Poland?
 
Thanks Mike.... It's quite the tale... Shame that the oldest choc bar in Britain will no longer be made in Britain! The prices on some of the products made offshore are sure to rise due to
the shipping costs.:(
 
Perhaps we should be looking at this problem from a slightly different angle. Clearly the owners of these companies are not prepared to pay the taxes that our government is imposing on them, this goes for all governments past and present.

This country does appear to be over taxing everyone , if you were in a position to avoid taxes by moving your companies registration to foreign shores you probably would. Either goverment blocks takeovers that appear to be asset stripping, or sees a bit of common sence( ok thats asking to much) and lowers or at least re bands tax rates in such a way that its no longer an attractive proposition to move ones head offices to other countries.

The only problem I see is that Switzerland has been a safe refuge for allsorts of tax dodgers and no gooders, so maybe that should be looked into a little more, goverment can stop mosts things by hitting people where it hutrs, clearly in this case its the wallet.
 
You have raised the 'P' word Bill. But I think that this is a big subject that has not been given much consideration for a long time now; except by those directly affected....ie: how to have a financial life outside of the mandates of corporate designes. It's fine if you are part of the workforce on the receiving end of the equation. This is simply a question and there is another part to it...when we get to the end of the calculation and can write Q.E.D. where will we be?
 
Having used the archives of Cadbury's we all have to hope that they are to be kept somewhere very safe. They are a wealth of information.
 
harro said:
Having used the archives of Cadbury's we all have to hope that they are to be kept somewhere very safe. They are a wealth of information.
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These archives are they the property of the company or in trust ? They could be a nice donation to an ivy league university, or worth a packet to a rich collector. Keep a close eye on their future if I were you.
 
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